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I think Brian Orser deserves his own thread and a lot of praise.
Star-maker Orser finally gets his two Olympic gold
Star-maker Orser finally gets his two Olympic gold
A Great Canadian Coach - Brian Orser
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And Congratulations to Brian! He is obviously one of the top coaches in figure skating today & richly deserves all the praise he will receive. Terrific results!
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Definitely; it would have been nice or be nice if he took one of Canada's skaters ie Chan and make them OGM - that would have been a nice story for the romantic in me. For years he lived in grief and in the shadow of Boitano; it would be nice if he had his time in the sun - but Boitano somehow manages to get his name out there now at Sochi and on tv. Hopefully Orser can rejoice in his accomplishments.
I disagree. Chan wasn't not OGM material. Chan HAD the OGM handed to him by Hanyu and then gave it up by making a bunch of small errors in his FS. That's not something a coach can fix.
I know posters have been debating this, but how much of Hanyu winning gold is attributed to Orser's coaching? I know Hanyu had all his jump techniques down pat before he came to Orser. Could he theoretically have won as he did if he stuck with his old coach?
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Yes, he probably could have. But Hanyu and his advisors chose to go to Orser for final polishing; they must have had a reason for this choice.
Orser has gotten a bit lucky getting talented skaters like Hanyu and Yuna when he did. He didn't train them from a young age and make them the skaters they became. He didn't even teach them the jump technique that made them Olympic champions. He did add polish though and take them to the next level.
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Well, Tarasova despite being called the "champion-maker" was never responsible for her great students from start to finish. Shizuka, Yagudin et al. already had their jump techniques when they went to Tarasova. She was there to turn them into polished, "finished" skaters.
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Shizuka had never been better than 8th in the World before going to Tarasova, and most years didnt even make it to Worlds, even in years their top finisher or a person who beat her out was outside the top 15 at Worlds or Olympics (1999, 2000, 2002 Olympics). Tarasova deserves huge credit for Shizuka, moreso than maybe those other students.
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How many elite level coaches are on the ice teaching six year olds how to skate or even ten year olds how to jump? Somehow, I doubt that at this point in their careers that that is how coaches like Tarasova, Carroll, Sato (the elder), et al...are spending their time. And coaches like Kori Ade won't be doing it anymore as her reputation grows with Jason's accomplishments.
Whatever role Brian has had in developing his skaters, something he's been doing must be working out! I suspect that Bluebonnet is right in terms of Hanyu, and it's Orser's ability to teach him how to pace himself to maintain his strength. Whatever it is, some praise for Brian O. is definitely in order. I'm glad to see this thread.
True - it was just a matter of time for both skaters.
So basically, if Orser hadn't stepped in and helped Hanyu progress so quickly, Canada would have its men's figure skating gold.
Way to go, Brian
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Yup he is good but I don't know who's idea was it to have Javi skate to 2 godawful programs for the Olympic year. At least they could have keep his Chaplin LP. I honestly don't think Javi can top that program ever.
So basically, if Orser hadn't stepped in and helped Hanyu progress so quickly, Canada would have its men's figure skating gold.
Way to go, Brian
Do you think so? Hanyu left the door wide open for Patrick to sail through and win the gold this week. Patrick wasn't able to close the deal. Brian or no Brian, Chan could have taken an OGM home to Canada. The fact that he didn't is not the result of anything Orser did.
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