Tripping on the Podium
Reactions and criticism of judging by Network commentators - NBC, CBC, BBC, etc
Originally Posted by Rachmaninoff
Originally Posted by kresslia
I noticed the few comments above in the Women's Free Skate thread specific to CBC's coverage whereby the commentators finally spoke out and DIRECTLY criticized the judging at the conclusion of the Women's event.
This definitely stood out for me too; as up to this point there had been NO DIRECT criticism of the Olympic judging by the CBC's "at-venue" commentators. Although, Kurt did come very close a few times during the dance event (...and you could tell he was biting his tongue to hold back the criticism!). But, that all changed when the results for Sotnikova (and especially her PCS scores) were posted! Placing Sotnikova ahead of Costner & especially Yuna was apparently the "straw that broke the camel's back" for Kurt. It took a few extra minutes, but eventually Carol joined in to declare she did NOT agree at all with how the event was judged either.
Although I only watched snippets of NBC's coverage, I did NOT hear any DIRECT criticism of the judging on their NETWORK coverage. Can someone verify if this was the case (for the NBC NETWORK coverage)? If there was judging criticism leveled, for whom was it for (e.g. for which event, or for which competitors, or for which country)?
What about the BBC? I believe I read a few posts about Robin Cousins expressing dismay at some of the judging? Can anyone give us the BBC angle on the commentators expressed views regarding the Sochi Olympic judging?
Johnny said after the SP that Adelina was scored "generously" and today something to the same effect after her FS, but no direct criticism. Both Tara and Johnny did indiacte that they enjoyed Mao's and Carolina's performances the most.
Tara and Johnny may be reluctant to offer any direct criticism becuse they seem to be on a mission to gain new fans for the sport, and suggesting that the scoring was unjustified would certainly not help their cause.
Tripping on the Podium
I found a few posts discussing various commentators views on judging:
BBC (Robin Cousins):
Originally Posted by Venee
CBC (Kurt Browning & Carol Lane):
Originally Posted by Flaya
German Network (Katarina Witt):
Originally Posted by anotherday
Italian commentators (I don't know who the men are, but the lady is italian skater Silvia Fontana) were absolutely pissed off, and not about Carolina's score but about Yuna's. When she ended her program they were ecstatic and were predicting a 150+ score, but when they saw it they couldn't believe it. After the two male commentators tried to understand the reason of the score but Fontana was absolutely firm on her criticizing it, she was really upset.
EDIT: now that I think about it they were openly speaking of biased judging at least on the PCS, saying that Julia's PCS was opening the door to inflating Adelina's had she gone clear; they said it after Julia's score and again after Adelina's
Here are Gwendal Peizerat's thoughts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnaqszGbCFI
He was not pleased.
The CBC commentators where pretty much literally speechless when Kim's score came up. Browning mentioned he'd need to watch Adelina's program again to try to understand her score.
Terry/Tara/Johnny openly commented that a skater might receive a 3 point deduction for "Skating while not being Russian". At the end of the program they said they agreed with the podium. I agree with the podium too but not with the placements.
Tripping on the Podium
Here's an interesting PREDICTION of what will be said on NBC's Prime Time Network coverage later tonight:
Originally Posted by cptnhastings
Gwendal is not really criticizing the final result either, but he's saying what most people are probably thinking: the margin by which Adelina won is too big. I'm personally fine with her winning, but her PCS should have been a few points lower in both the SP and the FS.
Originally Posted by Srin Odessa
One does not simply skate into Sochi
Like mentioned Katarina Witt was outraged, she couldn't believe it. Said she really likes Adelina, but there was no way she was better than Yuna. The commentators Daniel Weiss (on TV) and Rudi Cerne (stream) both former figure skaters were also not happy with the results and were openly critizising by saying they don't really understand the scoring.
Even Dick Button, who has pointed out Yuna's shortcomings more often than most others, had the highest praises for Yuna. Just read his tweets. Not to mention pretty much all the former skaters/champs have been saying she and Kostner were the best.
Paul Wylie said he thought Kim was tepid.
Originally Posted by s_parks
Also Per Michelle Kwan. While she preferred Kim's skate. Under this Scoring system, Adelina won fair and square. Because of more difficulty.
Jamie Sale herself said this:
Jamie Sale @JamieSale 2h
Ok I'm not a judge but I just watched the #womansfigureskating again + I STRONGLY disagree w results like MANY others. #ISU now what?
Michael Weiss said
But, couldn't disagree more that Yuna &Satnikova had basically same Component marks?..in Both short & long? Home field inflation #Sochi2014
Amazing ladies event all around....all the ladies came to skate!!! So fun to watch all unfold! #Sochi2014
Philip Hersh said
"Now the other Russian, Adelina Sotnikova, is her country’s first women’s Olympic singles champion, thanks to a judges’ decision that may go down as among the most questionable in figure skating’s checkered history."