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    Reactions and criticism of judging by Network commentators - NBC, CBC, BBC, etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rachmaninoff View Post
    Gross. Even Kurt Browning criticized the PCS score, and those commentators haven't said anything negative about the scoring all week.
    Quote Originally Posted by kresslia View Post
    Kurt Browning is pissed over Yuna's loss.

    I noticed the few comments above in the Women's Free Skate thread specific to CBC's coverage whereby the commentators finally spoke out and DIRECTLY criticized the judging at the conclusion of the Women's event.

    This definitely stood out for me too; as up to this point there had been NO DIRECT criticism of the Olympic judging by the CBC's "at-venue" commentators. Although, Kurt did come very close a few times during the dance event (...and you could tell he was biting his tongue to hold back the criticism!). But, that all changed when the results for Sotnikova (and especially her PCS scores) were posted! Placing Sotnikova ahead of Costner & especially Yuna was apparently the "straw that broke the camel's back" for Kurt. It took a few extra minutes, but eventually Carol joined in to declare she did NOT agree at all with how the event was judged either.

    Although I only watched snippets of NBC's coverage, I did NOT hear any DIRECT criticism of the judging on their NETWORK coverage. Can someone verify if this was the case (for the NBC NETWORK coverage)? If there was judging criticism leveled, for whom was it for (e.g. for which event, or for which competitors, or for which country)?

    What about the BBC? I believe I read a few posts about Robin Cousins expressing dismay at some of the judging? Can anyone give us the BBC angle on the commentators expressed views regarding the Sochi Olympic judging?

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    Johnny said after the SP that Adelina was scored "generously" and today something to the same effect after her FS, but no direct criticism. Both Tara and Johnny did indiacte that they enjoyed Mao's and Carolina's performances the most.

    Tara and Johnny may be reluctant to offer any direct criticism becuse they seem to be on a mission to gain new fans for the sport, and suggesting that the scoring was unjustified would certainly not help their cause.

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    I found a few posts discussing various commentators views on judging:


    BBC (Robin Cousins):

    Quote Originally Posted by Venee View Post
    I watched on the BBC feed. I'm a fan of Robin Cousins, but he said something that irritated me. He mentioned Yuna got the Silver because she didn't compete all year and couldn't keep up or some other such nonsense. I agree that not competing did hurt her, not because she couldn't keep up (she's miles ahead of the others frankly as a complete skater) but because she skated so early that they really didn't give her the type of scores she would have received had she skated later. Mao should have been placed first in the long with Yuna second toss up between Adelina and Carolina for 3rd. I'm not sure how that would have panned out overall.

    CBC (Kurt Browning & Carol Lane):


    Quote Originally Posted by Flaya View Post
    Here, in Canada the losers on CBC (Browning and that British woman) started to ***** about how Sotnikova is behind in her footsteps and artistry. Those are the same people that defend Chan and think he's a God.

    Artistry my ***, she was the best!

    German Network (Katarina Witt):

    Quote Originally Posted by anotherday View Post
    You should have seen Katharina Witt's outrage on German TV. I hope many others will speak up and forcing a change in the system. I think 2002 was nothing in comparison to today's and yesterday's 'competition'.
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    Italian commentators (I don't know who the men are, but the lady is italian skater Silvia Fontana) were absolutely pissed off, and not about Carolina's score but about Yuna's. When she ended her program they were ecstatic and were predicting a 150+ score, but when they saw it they couldn't believe it. After the two male commentators tried to understand the reason of the score but Fontana was absolutely firm on her criticizing it, she was really upset.
    EDIT: now that I think about it they were openly speaking of biased judging at least on the PCS, saying that Julia's PCS was opening the door to inflating Adelina's had she gone clear; they said it after Julia's score and again after Adelina's

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    Here are Gwendal Peizerat's thoughts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnaqszGbCFI

    He was not pleased.

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    The CBC commentators where pretty much literally speechless when Kim's score came up. Browning mentioned he'd need to watch Adelina's program again to try to understand her score.

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    Terry/Tara/Johnny openly commented that a skater might receive a 3 point deduction for "Skating while not being Russian". At the end of the program they said they agreed with the podium. I agree with the podium too but not with the placements.

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    Here's an interesting PREDICTION of what will be said on NBC's Prime Time Network coverage later tonight:

    Quote Originally Posted by cptnhastings View Post
    This will definitely not be a scandal in the US. I can already hear Scott Hamilton and Sandra Bezic in my head telling the US audience how Sotnikova deserves the gold b/c she brought the (partisan) audience into the program. What a crock. They haven't even said it yet, and I am still going to call for them to be fired ASAP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Srin Odessa View Post
    Here are Gwendal Peizerat's thoughts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnaqszGbCFI

    He was not pleased.
    Gwendal is not really criticizing the final result either, but he's saying what most people are probably thinking: the margin by which Adelina won is too big. I'm personally fine with her winning, but her PCS should have been a few points lower in both the SP and the FS.

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    Like mentioned Katarina Witt was outraged, she couldn't believe it. Said she really likes Adelina, but there was no way she was better than Yuna. The commentators Daniel Weiss (on TV) and Rudi Cerne (stream) both former figure skaters were also not happy with the results and were openly critizising by saying they don't really understand the scoring.

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    Even Dick Button, who has pointed out Yuna's shortcomings more often than most others, had the highest praises for Yuna. Just read his tweets. Not to mention pretty much all the former skaters/champs have been saying she and Kostner were the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_parks View Post
    Even Dick Button, who has pointed out Yuna's shortcomings more often than most others, had the highest praises for Yuna. Just read his tweets. Not to mention pretty much all the former skaters/champs have been saying she and Kostner were the best.
    Paul Wylie said he thought Kim was tepid.

    Also Per Michelle Kwan. While she preferred Kim's skate. Under this Scoring system, Adelina won fair and square. Because of more difficulty.
    http://msn.foxsports.com/olympics/st...n-gold1-022014

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    Jamie Sale herself said this:

    Jamie Sale ‏@JamieSale 2h

    Ok I'm not a judge but I just watched the #womansfigureskating again + I STRONGLY disagree w results like MANY others. #ISU now what?

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    Michael Weiss ‏said

    But, couldn't disagree more that Yuna &Satnikova had basically same Component marks?..in Both short & long? Home field inflation #Sochi2014
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    Amazing ladies event all around....all the ladies came to skate!!! So fun to watch all unfold! #Sochi2014

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    Philip Hersh said

    "Now the other Russian, Adelina Sotnikova, is her country’s first women’s Olympic singles champion, thanks to a judges’ decision that may go down as among the most questionable in figure skating’s checkered history."

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