This is a realistic wish. I’d say this is exactly what might happen if Cinquanta leaves before term. Take it as my prediction.
I’m not sure what you mean saying “I’m not for people who…” but I hope there’s no unrealistic wish behind it. Sports go hand-in-hand with politics and accordingly with world leaders who take the headlines for whatever reason. This is not going away. Of course, I realize that sometimes these passions result from little knowledge or a cultural misunderstanding but if we consider ourselves wise we can always explain things. Just think that you make the world better every time you do
Well, Korea is a small country. Russia is happy. Japan is happy. US and Canada have divided opinion. For the rest of the world, figure skating is just not worth it. Nothing should happen unless the divided opinion in US and Canada takes a turn. After Dick Button’s article, I nearly started to believe it’s realistically possible. For US and Canada, it’s all about money. This is one [less important] thing if the current judging system is preventing a particular athlete from getting an OGM; if it’s preventing the whole organization from getting more money, it’s a completely different matter.
It depends if you want to get one or two reasonable answers or one or two pages of slur
Sorry, I have to disappoint you! Unfortunately, I’m always part serious when I write unserious stuff
Fantastic response. I appreciate the gkelly style answer too. You can sum up my "agenda" as I'm quite often accused of having in a simple phrase. Realistic discussion with fairness as the base. I've stated over and over that the judging process doesn't need a drastic overhaul. All we need is for the judges to explain their marks. I think that is fair. For example on any protocol sheet you would see this
3lz-3t +1 GOE bullets satisfied(1,6) notes: surprisingly fast set up and great flow throughout sequence with nice flow out.
Even if we disagree we at least see why the judge awarded bullets to the jump. If we notice a bullet being abused the ISU could update the language accordingly upon request.
Be patient, Cinquanta is thinking about that too.
I would love to see that happening, at least for one Olympic.
After the result we will have people fighting with each other.
That should make figure skating "popular" enough.
Skaters should things they're able to do, and use all their advantages.Yuna also does a belly-up camel that I haven't seen anyone else doing
There are skaters who are more flexible, those who are more powerful or elegant. Each to their own.
Mao does a level4 spin and so does Yulia, but they're different.
Amen to that!
To people who say that Sot or Lip's program are technically stronger than Yuna’s, please read this : http://jwong224.blogspot.kr/
For those who argued that Adelina’s programs are technically stronger than Yuna’s, score analysis shows that the combined BV of her programs are only 2.94 points higher than Yuna’s. This gap includes the inexplicable downgrades of Yuna’s step sequence elements from level 4 to level 3 by the Russian technical controller in both of her programs. These downgrades caused her BV to be reduced by a total of 1.2 points. The gap could have been reduced to at most 1.74 points without even needing to go into another argument about how Adelina's step sequences were all graded level 4 though they were obvious inferior to Yuna’s.
In this : http://jwong224.blogspot.kr/
As for the free skate, Yuna skated to a tango piece "Adios Nonino". This program is very challenging because it requires many movements and diverse emotions with no rest point in any part of the program in order keep up with the fast tempo of the music. Her performance was again flawless and phenomenal. It looks effortless though it is very difficult and energy demanding. On the other hand, Adelina had several obvious mistakes such as a two-foot landing and a step-out during a combination jump. She also had a wrong entry into her first jumping pass, the triple lutz-triple toe, which the mistake is commonly referred as the “wrong edge”. Surprisingly, the Russian technical controller did not address this mistake and no point was deducted as a result. Nevertheless, Adelina's GOE is almost 2 points higher than Yuna’s while the PCS again puts them in a virtual tie. Some argued that Adelina brought a lot of energy on the ice and had great connection with the audience. However, waving to the audience and to the judges during the program should not contribute to adding any points to the artistry score.
One of the major differences between these two skaters is that Yuna makes her difficult program looks effortless while Adelina obviously makes hers looks exhausting. Besides, Yuna has demonstrated that her quality of skating, jumping technique, poise and elegance are a class of her own. She is a complete skater with rare qualities which many skating fans have nicknamed her “Queen Yuna“. Also, she is already considered as a figure skating legend at the time when she won the gold at the last Vancouver Olympics in 2010. In general, Adelina is a great skater with a lot of potential. She skated very well and delivered two brilliant programs to her home crowd at Sochi. However, the executions of her performances show she is not in the same caliber as Yuna. Skating legends such as Kurt Browning (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHrgxY7S-Bo) and Katarina Witt (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV4sfY2ou_I) have already explained their differences very professionally which you could review them by following the links.
Without going into the argument whether Yuna Kim was underscored in both her Short Program and Free Skate, it is clear that Adelina Sotnikova was extremely over scored. Though figure skating is a subjective sport, the results are completely outrageous. Sonia Bianchetti Garbato, a former Olympic figure skating judge and a top-ranked skating official, has described the judging at the ladies’ event as “disgraceful and again an embarrassment for the sport”. She pointed out that “In no way could Adelina Sotnikova be placed ahead of Yuna Kim and perhaps also Carolina Kostner.” Sonia clearly stated that “no fair judge with a minimum of competence on how to evaluate the Program Components could have awarded to Adelina higher marks in choreography, performance/execution, and interpretation of music.” Her analysis regarding the judging scandal can be viewed in the following link: http://www.soniabianchetti.com/writings_sochi2014.html.
I meant..who was saying that Yuna's programs are inferior? You started off by saying for those of you claiming Sot and Lip had technically stronger programs. Can you please post who is saying that? Jwong is too one sided for me sorry. The truth is somewhere in the middle of that opinion piece/blog IMHO. I prefer fair analysis.....just like my judging.
The whole being a legend part made me l so thanks for that.
The gap at most i.44 or 1.74 points could be no problem, if judges would give right GOE points of Sot's Flutz, two-feet landing, under-rotated 3toe
1)She just basically disqualified herself. That is choreography and worthy of points to the PCS. While I agree its silly choreo its no more silly than Caro's wiggling hips or Plushenko mean mugging is it. Not my thing but choreo non the less.However, waving to the audience and to the judges during the program should not contribute to adding any points to the artistry score.
2)one sided OPINION. Though figure skating is a subjective sport, the results are completely outrageous. Sonia Bianchetti Garbato, a former Olympic figure skating judge and a top-ranked skating official, has described the judging at the ladies’ event as “disgraceful and again an embarrassment for the sport”.
3)Using her own logic please explain how this is reflected in the PCS. I've never seen a exhausting looking program deduction.One of the major differences between these two skaters is that Yuna makes her difficult program looks effortless while Adelina obviously makes hers looks exhausting.
4)Kinda shows bias. I'm inclined to agree here as a fan of Kim Yuna but it seems silly to put that into a "fair" statement. She really never shows Adelina the same respect exactly. Maybe a forced "well she skated her programs well at home" kinda thing. But she's not a legend or worthy of equal consideration.She is a complete skater with rare qualities which many skating fans have nicknamed her “Queen Yuna
But one OGM does not a legend make, no? Sotnikova just isn't in the same league as Kim or Asada at this point. With time, maybe she could get there but as it stands now, she's lacking in body of work (and time in).
^while I agree!! It can't be reflected in the scores this way really. They all still have to perform. I mean legends are beatable. I just don't dig on opinions that cloud and undermine the facts. Is that a more fair way to say it. I personally score the whole thing as a toss up. I can see three victory stories. I just don't think that is a ridiculous thing to say.