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Thread: The Judging Controversy Thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melon View Post
    Although it's heartbreaking that some of the veterans were ripped off, I'm more, deeply, sad about how the Olympics are heading into. Olympics is losing its spirit. It has been turned from pure competition to money and politics. I had this feeling even before Yuna skated that even if she's clean, the best she'll receive is silver, and I was right. I was not happy, but I was not mad either because it was bound to happen. Russians will be happy, but I know the rest of the world knows who the real winner is, and it's not Adelina.

    My heart today though, goes to Mao. Her tears at the end reminded me how difficult and stressful this sport can be. She did make mistakes in the SP, but her FS was delightful to watch, and she too, will be remembered as one of the "greats" in my minds. It was really nice to see her 3A getting ratified.

    Yuna done what she can do best, and she delivered. If she's happy with her performance, I, too, will be happy.
    well said. I was also so happy for Mao. She is a fighter and it would have been amazing to see her make the podium.

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    She had a stepout and no spiral sequence and scored almost the same as Yuna 2010. So yeah, laugh at that.

    I really like Adelina, and wanted her on the podium, but not like that. What a disgrace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usethis2 View Post
    Adelina's PCS

    9.18
    8.96
    9.43
    9.50
    9.43

    I cannot believe this. Did she really skate like (or better than) Kim in Vancouver? Did Kim skate so much worse than in Vancouver?

    Kim was a bit tentative today so the PCS margin was smaller between her and Adelina.

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    Russians don't need to worry about next Olympics.

    IMO, they will be paid back 2014 Worlds. (Maybe they should keep away from that.)

    Adelina, Julia can get this score? I don't think so. Never Forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurrah View Post
    And the thing is, Russia has basically doomed their skaters for the next quadrennial, so skaters like Julia and the likes who might have peaked in Pyongyang can kiss their gold medals good bye. Nevermind if they deserve it or not.
    I think we should punish the skaters from USA CAN and KOR as well because their judges also gave Adelina monster GOE and PCS.

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    She was the best and deserved to win and made changes necessary to win. She dropped loop combo as second jump and improved flips with combos. She worked hard and delivered when it counted. Tarasova method of keeping skates basically the same no matter how much trouble the skater has with them and pushing them to deliver when it matters most worked. I know Tarasova was not there but she was the leader of Sotnikova's team. And whatever it was worked. It almost didn't work! The PCS of the day reflected the day and not rep. It's like when Lipinski got 5.9's in the second mark or something. People hated that too! But it happens because the performance worked! It wasn't completely perfect but even the in flaws she was undeniably on her game the whole time! It was a mission and she accomplished her mission and it was an inspirational skate.

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    what made Adelina win was the home crowd cheer, it wasnt like Yuna was at her best and Sotnikova imploded
    you can say she pulled a Hughes and the crowd rallied for her

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    Quote Originally Posted by PftJump View Post
    Adelina, Julia can get this score? I don't think so. Never Forever.
    Adelina will. She is Olympic champion and has a reputation of being able to beat the last two world champions skating clean, even as she made a mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy View Post
    I think we should punish the skaters from USA CAN and KOR as well because their judges also gave Adelina monster GOE and PCS.
    What? How do you know which nationalities gave what?? Were they the judges that were paid off and you happen to be in a position to know this?? Otherwise, why else for such an odd remark. Judging is supposed to be anonymous, right?

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    People always think Kim is tentative because she doesn't look so happy like other skaters after landing difficult jumps. I talked about this in other threads. Her jumps are part of choreography, not some accomplishment to be excited about just because of not falling off. Just because a skater's mouth is ear to ear after landing a jump that doesn't mean the skater is "on."

    P.S. I will miss her graceful, otherworldly skating forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glam View Post
    Obviously the ISU doesn't want to do anything to this problem.
    Probably because they all received a nice paycheck -- or a villa -- from the Russians.

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    I'm pissed. Adelina was good but she did not deserve OGM or a score 149 and she had flaws she was also overscored in the SP. The only reason I'm staying in figure skating is because of Yuzuru Hanyu and Li Zijun, I can't wait to see the 2018 Olympics because it would be better than Sochi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ven View Post
    Christine Brennan writes figure skating for USA Today, and is a commentator on ABC and National Public Radio.

    She tweeted:
    "headline is that this is worse than Salt Lake City. Terrible decision."

    Also she said Ashley Wagner made a statement, that she was speechless about the results and anonymous judging must be eliminated.
    The biggest scandal of 2002 was that Shen / Zhao did not win. You see it is all relative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy View Post
    Why shouldn't Yuna have to do 7 triples to win like everyone else?
    Because PCS exist. At least it would be if judges don't treat it as a TES extension.

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    I don't understand HOW Russia could've rigged it. Was Putin holding the judges' puppies hostage? Did they threaten that they'd ship them to Siberia? Did they pay them in vodka? What leverage could they have had when it's anonymous judging?

    I don't agree with the result today, but I think the judges were caught up in the moment and the Russian crowd subconsciously made them tick up the PCS for the Russians. Sotnikova's TES marks were about right.

    Thank god winning Olympic medals isn't everything.

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