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    Petition to investigate judging gets record signings, makes Wall Street Journal headline

    An online petition calling for an investigation into the scoring of the women’s figure skating competition at the Winter Olympics attracted more than 1.2 million signatures within about 12 hours of Yuna Kim’s shock silver medal.
    Robertson said it is the fastest-growing petition Change.org has ever had.
    http://blogs.wsj.com/korearealtime/2...cord-signings/

    So proud to be one of the first to sign it!

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    That's insane.

    Kevin VDP said in his commentating (I think during ice dance) that if figure skating was involved in another judging scandal, the IOC would kick it out of the Olympics. I really doubt that is what figure skating fans hope to achieve with this.

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    Have you read most of the comments on the change.org petition? They are 90% from Koreans and they give such illuminating reasons as "because Queen Yuna is the best". Ugh.

    I too believe Adelina should have gotten the bronze rather than gold, but this is all kinds of silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalloryArcher View Post
    Have you read most of the comments on the change.org petition? They are 90% from Koreans and they give such illuminating reasons as "because Queen Yuna is the best". Ugh.

    I too believe Adelina should have gotten the bronze rather than gold, but this is all kinds of silly.
    I'm American and I know many other Americans and Canadians who have signed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalloryArcher View Post
    Have you read most of the comments on the change.org petition? They are 90% from Koreans and they give such illuminating reasons as "because Queen Yuna is the best". Ugh.

    I too believe Adelina should have gotten the bronze rather than gold, but this is all kinds of silly.
    This is Korea's Platinum medal tirade. Because these folks are "unbiased judges" Seriously.

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    I'm from New Zealand and I signed it….

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    10% of 1.5 mill. is 150k. That's still something. The non-Korean votes will be the factor.

    From the look of it, Koreans' voices don't matter at all or reinforce the petition to affect the ISU. It's a weak FS country, and nationalism partially counts, so I get it. Had it been a 90% American petition for Michelle Kwan, the response wouldn't be as cynical, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bekalc View Post
    This is Korea's Platinum medal tirade. Because these folks are "unbiased judges" Seriously.
    This isn't going to do Yuna or Caro any favours, I agree. But you've been insisting that the judges were absolutely fair with scores, as if several judges with Russian ties are not problematic at all. That, I feel like, should be investigated on.

    Yuna and Caro lost gold. It's over with. But hopefully no one else could encounter the some kind of fishy situations if ISU actually decides to be clear on what constitutes conflict of interest when selecting judges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bebevia View Post
    10% of 1.5 mill. is 150k. That's still something. The non-Korean votes will be the factor.

    From the look of it, Koreans' voices don't matter at all or reinforce the petition to affect the ISU. It's a weak FS country, and nationalism partially counts, so I get it. Had it been a 90% American petition for Michelle Kwan, the response wouldn't be as cynical, though.
    No kidding. Man, if Yuna was an American skater, this may not have happened. Korean fans need to get a hold of themselves. Acting like hurt fans isn't going to achieve anything, let alone an actual investigation of any sort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegarin View Post
    This isn't going to do Yuna or Caro any favours, I agree. But you've been insisting that the judges were absolutely fair with scores, as if several judges with Russian ties are not problematic at all. That, I feel like, should be investigated on.

    Yuna and Caro lost gold. It's over with. But hopefully no one else could encounter the some kind of fishy situations if ISU actually decides to be clear on what constitutes conflict of interest when selecting judges.
    Once again, the judges list was announced and drawn long before the competition begin. That's the time to scream foul. Not to scream foul when you don't like the results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bekalc View Post
    Once again, the judges list was announced and drawn long before the competition begin. That's the time to scream foul. Not to scream foul when you don't like the results.
    Right, and how many people already knew that the list of judges included the wife of the Russian ice skating federation and someone who was investigated for bribery? C'mon already. How's this okay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bekalc View Post
    Once again, the judges list was announced and drawn long before the competition begin. That's the time to scream foul. Not to scream foul when you don't like the results.
    Hmm? Of course the judges were selected before the event, silly; not after. However, the FS panel was not posted on the official results page until long after the SP. People didn't bother as much because of an underlying faith they needn't go that far checking. No one noticed that an officially penalized judge got back working and judged this major event before inspection; had we known, this would've been an issue earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegarin View Post
    Right, and how many people already knew that the list of judges included the wife of the Russian ice skating federation and someone who was investigated for bribery? C'mon already. How's this okay?
    Yes they were on the list of judges.

    She has been a judge for 20 some years...Figure skating is such a small sport tha guess what judges are often coaches, federation officials etc. The Russian judge was always going to be supporting Adelina. The Korean judge Kim. That's the sport. Nobody's found fault with her judging in terms of corruption.

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    I tend to feel others' concerns, but I think it's better to let it out in the open. Otherwise, things are bound to repeat.

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    Before the Russian girls finished 1-2 at Nationals to essentially make the Olympic team, they scored consistently low 60s in PCS. Then they make the Olympic team, and they get to almost 70 in one competition as Euros and Sotnikova almost 75 at the next competition at Olympics.

    Gracie goes from struggling to break 120, makes the Olympic team, now very next competition she's falling on her butt and scoring 136.

    Yeah, none of that sounds fishy at all.

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