Where did Serious Business go? That avatar... oy.
Originally Posted by jkun
I'm sorry to say that I tend to agree with you. Ironically, I see the opposite happening in Ice Dancing: Uber!Drama! will top technical complexity. Ingmar Bergman on Blades.
Originally Posted by Blades of Passion
The other trend I see happening is what happened in gymnastics: the rise of the teeny bopper, who makes a HUGE initial splash and then fades out/burns out quickly.
Not looking forward to any of this.
Skaters with 7 triple and 2 double axel layout, preferably with clean lutzes and good spins. This is very clear to me because If even Kim is tied with Gold in technical score -Gold fall on 3F- there is no way another 6 triple skater could pass that base value.
There is one skater who could have actually passed a 7 triple and 2 double axel layout with 6 triples. Her name was Mao Asada, back when the only triples she was doing were 3A, 3flutz, 3F, and 3Lo. (I'm not sure but I think her 2009-10 season layouts could do it too?)
Originally Posted by elif
Ladies need 3-3s of higher difficulty in the SP and the 7 triples FP to win at world/olympic events. Things like skating skills, choreography matter only among skaters of similar technical abilities.
She secure 110 PCS points.
Just need 80-90 TES points for podium.
Keeper of the Kweens OGM.
As of now I can see Adelina and Gracie having a rivalry. They are both technically talented skaters it will be interesting to see how the develop moving forward.
Originally Posted by PftJump
I don't see her performing anywhere near the points she received at Sochi outside of Russia.
Just watched Yulia at the Gala. Unreal! To me she will be the dominating force of figure skating.
Originally Posted by MK's Winter
The Russian media crushed her at the Olympics but she will recover much stronger than she was before.
Like the men, I'll put my contenders by country:
Kanako Murakami (if she stays)
Marin Honda (I don't know when her birthday is...she might not be old enough, but I think she is barely, just like Julia Lipitnitskaia this year)
Mae Bernice Meite
Again, many others we aren't even aware of...
she takes the audience on her journey of emotions
I thought Gracie showed an attempt, an maybe even the beginnings of musical range, with her gala performance. Yulia, not so much, though she did show off some incredible skating. But her gala performance really showed that Yulia has to develop her relationship music. She might has well have been skating to her LP music. I think Yulia is a very good performer but she feels her skating, not the music. Adelina also made a good attempt with her gala piece to show her artistry but I was unconvinced.
Originally Posted by CezarMart
Anyway, I think these three are all incredibly talented and I hope they can keep it up and improve and keep up our excitement about skating. We'll have to see if Adelina can live up to her gold medal. We'll have to see if Gracie can continue to find consistency and continue to polish off the slightly rough edges of her skating. She basically has it all. Yulia, it'll be very interesting to see how she develops because she's only 15. But I think she will be highly motivated and, for now, I see her as being the one to beat next season.
There's Polina too. She has a lot going for her. Great technique, confidence, and innate musicality. But will just have to see. 15-18 brings a lot of changes to a young lady's body. All my fingers are crossed for her.
Who else is up and coming?
Russia, Russia, Russia.
Despite what people think of the way the skating events were judged, the reality is that Russia now has two ladies with Olympic titles and a small army of talented girls coming up behind them. That competition is going to push all the girls to get better, and even if a few of them become victims to puberty, it only takes one to win a gold medal. The Americans have potential, but I don't think they have the depth. And I think we're going to see a dip in results from the Japanese ladies. There just doesn't seem to be another country set up to do as well as Russia in the years to come.
I had thought Kanako would stand on top of the podium for a while after the Sochi games, but Adelina's soaring PCS will probably sink most of skaters at least in 2014. If Elena makes a successful senior debut, it would be interesting to see how soon she gets close to Adelina and Julia's PCS. Personally, I love the skate of Polina and Kanako.
I really hope it is Radionova who ends up on top. She doesn't have any Sochi scoring issues to taint her image; she missed it due to the age limit (thanks to Asada/Kim I have a soft spot for skaters in this situation). If not her, it could also be any of the 4 girls that made the JGPF.
Originally Posted by pangtongfan
Japan's junior situation is not good but Marin Honda might become a contender.
I agree it about Osmond and Li. Li needs to keep her jumps but massively improve her PCS because even her clean 7-triple skates get poorly rewarded. Osmond needs to stay healthy, stop falling, and keep her transitions, and Skate Canada will do the rest.
I agree whole-heartedly on the Americans. I don't think Gracie Gold needs a ton of competition, but she needs someone who's just good enough to beat her if she doesn't keep on her toes. For her to have a serious chance, she has to have some level of dominance. I think one of the problems Mirai Nagasu, Rachael Flatt, Alyssa Cizsny, Agnes Zawadzki and an early Ashley Wagner had was that they didn't have a consistent target. They were all fighting on about the same level. U.S. Figure Skating needs something of a heirarchy to start building their program up again. That's a perk of the Russian system right now. With Julia Lipnitskaia and Adelina Sotnikova's European and Olympic results the past couple months, they have separated themselves from the other Russian girls going into the next cycle and given the others two goals to aim for.
Originally Posted by pangtongfan
As for the Russians, I don't want to guess at who might be around for Pyeongchang in four years. At this point, if Julia and Adelina both compete at Worlds, I fully expect them to get three spots back for Russia. It'd be a huge shock if they didn't. In 2018, they could both still be around, one of them could or neither of them could – they'll only be 19 and 21, still pretty young in skating. Elizaveta Tuktamysheva needs to re-establish herself next year, or the Federation might pass her by. Elena Radionova looks nice, but I will not comment on her until we see her at a senior Worlds. The same goes for Anna Pogorilaya, Nikol Gosviani or any of the girls currently in the juniors. And, assuming she sticks around, don't forget about Alena Leonova. If Russia'd had three spots, she'd have been at these Olympics.
If Kanako Murakami sticks around, she's got a shot at being one of the top girls, but she's really inconsistent. Satoko Miyahara is one I'm curious about, but again, she hasn't even been to a senior Worlds yet. I'm still reserving judgment. I don't think Zijun Li's going to be a top skater. I don't dislike her, but I don't think she stands out enough next to the other top girls. I'm not sure about Kaetlyn Osmond. As you wrote, she needs to stay healthy, and she needs to put together two clean (or mostly clean) programs on a consistent basis internationally. She does stand out, though, and she does have a powerful federation backing her if she can get herself into contention. If she can put the pieces together, she and Gracie might be the most intriguing prospects of all the non-Russian ladies at this point.