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    Quote Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy View Post
    When did she say Adelina's PCS was too high? Please post a link to video or an article with a quote because you assume far too much.
    Once again you are the one who said Bezic endorsed Adelina's gold. Now we have video on YouTube of the actual broadcast and they undermine your claims quite a bit. Please don't try to project your crappy logic onto me because you got caught spinning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy View Post
    You're right. Michelle never said Adelina won "hands down, fair and square." Please accept my apologies for bringing up her statement, which was so courageous given that she is friends with Yuna and still went on record saying she thinks Adelina should have won.
    Once again, if you are just going to cherry pick quotes, you can make anyone sound like they believe whatever you want them to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy View Post
    It's possible she meant the judging panel controversy took attention away from the fact that Adelina was the rightful winner, as MM pointed out. Unless she addresses the skaters specifically all we can go on is what she said previously.
    and disregard what she said later...??

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    Quote Originally Posted by sk8in View Post
    Once again, if you are just going to cherry pick quotes, you can make anyone sound like they believe whatever you want them to.
    At least I'm using quotes rather than assumptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooper View Post
    and disregard what she said later...??
    She said nothing. Not. A. Thing. About Yuna or Adelina specifically later. She also said nothing. Not. A. Thing. About who should have won other than when she said Adelina should have won initially. I don't understand how you Yuna-ubers can completely ignore her initial statement which was explicit and go on a subjective interpretation of her disliking the composition of the judging panel as some sort of endorsement that Yuna should have won.

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    Thanks for the link.

    I am curious about what this means (from the Google translation)

    If [Yuna] had chosen something more complicated, for example, Great Snipe onions, as I did …[/b]

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    Quote Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy View Post
    She said nothing. Not. A. Thing. About Yuna or Adelina specifically later. She also said nothing. Not. A. Thing. About who should have won other than when she said Adelina should have won initially. I don't understand how you Yuna-ubers can completely ignore her initial statement which was explicit and go on a subjective interpretation of her disliking the composition of the judging panel as some sort of endorsement that Yuna should have won.
    she said nothing?? she just basically said that there's a problem in the judging.. of course when someone is saying that there's a problem in the judging you will just shrug it off..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    Thanks for the link.

    I am curious about what this means (from the Google translation)
    Yes, it's a good one. She meant double loop - "loop" sounds similar to лук which is onions in russian. So she says that Yuna did not do a 3 jump combination and even in the 2 jump combination the second jump was easy - not the same as her loop.

    Another good one is "mat in Korean". Mat (Мат) is curse words (both in plural and singular). "Solid mat" means "heavy curses". Poor girl.

    But my favourite is "in the mean time I will carry the pope". She meant in fact that her father would drive before she obtains the license. Google made my day.

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    If [Yuna] had chosen something more complicated, for example, Great Snipe onions, as I did …[/b]
    What I've learned at GS

    Loop Jump=snipe onion
    Toe Loop= sheep skin


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    Quote Originally Posted by samkrut@mail.ru View Post
    Another good one is "mat in Korean". Mat (Мат) is curse words (both in plural and singular). "Solid mat" means "heavy curses". Poor girl.
    Thanks for the clarification. "OL: A mat in Korean? AS: Well, not only in Korean. Also in English. The main thing is that it was a solid mat. I did not answer them. Let them decide for themselves. It's clear that they will stand behind their mountain. Especially that Yuna Kim for them ... as president. (Laughs) "

    Good attitude for cyber bullying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sk8in View Post
    Michelle did not say she thought Sotnikova should have won. She said she thought Sotnikova won "fair and square" according to the rules in place. She said she prefers Yuna's skating because she is both technical and artistic. This is similar to what Sandra Bezic said, however you misconstrued that as well. Michelle would not come out and say Yuna should have won, no because it would make the sport look bad, and she has a responsibility as one of its most public faces. It would hurt her legacy and the sport's image to openly dispute the result of an Olympic games. Again, acquiescing to a bad situation is not the same thing as agreeing with what happened. You clearly 1. don't know anything about the sport, 2. will stop at nothing in your smarmy insincere arguments. Clearly logic isn't a factor in your arguments here.
    The first bolded part is what actually happened.

    The second bolded part is your theory.

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    How can we congratulate a false winner? I agree that we shouldn't throw personal attacks at her (criticisms yes, attacks no) but if you congratulate a false winner that won unfairly, you end up turning a blind eye and supporting to a system that is not working. This will only delay the desperately needed changes in figure skating. Only when people start asking questions, raise awareness and criticize what went WRONG, can we have a clean, FAIR sport. Historically, THIS IS HOW CHANGES ARE MADE. Please don't side with corruption. That is not good for anyone, not for the sport, not for Sotnikova.

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