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Thread: How Sotnikova beat Kim - Move by Move

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    Quote Originally Posted by CezarMart View Post
    Math is math. 6 technical score difference, period. Proven point by point, element by element. And you bitter people need to shut up! There is a reason the 6.0 system is gone.
    Let's write a petition to ISU to invalidate math! Math is corrupted! Math is a russophile! Putin corrupted math!
    Where is her edge call? Where are her UR calls? Math is not corrupted. Judges are.
    All season long
    http://www.isuresults.com/results/gp..._SP_Scores.pdf
    -2 to -3 GOE on the 3fLz combo
    http://www.isuresults.com/results/gp..._FS_Scores.pdf
    -1 on the fLz combo
    http://www.isuresults.com/results/gp..._FS_Scores.pdf
    -1
    http://www.isuresults.com/results/ec..._FS_Scores.pdf
    -2 to -3
    http://www.isuresults.com/results/gp..._FS_Scores.pdf
    -1

    Then, bam
    http://www.isuresults.com/results/ow..._FS_Scores.pdf
    +2 at the Olympics. No UR, too. The only math in here is how much Russian rubles convert to whatever currency the judges use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CezarMart View Post
    Math is math.
    No, math here is not math. You obviously are so naive. In real world, people and corporations fudge with numbers all the time to produce a result that they want.

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    Sotnikova didn't beat Yu-Na (or Carolina) with her TES. The PCS are the scores are at the heart of the matter here, flutz and step sequence level aside.

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    Putin corrupted math!
    Oh. My. God.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Procrastinator View Post
    Adelina did deserve most of the high GOE's she got.
    Umm no and if she did Kim and Kostner should have had higher on most all of theirs than they got.

    It is hilarious there are still a few delusional Sotnikovabots trying to convince anyone else the result was remotedly justifiable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_ice View Post
    Here, enjoy - http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...ting.html?_r=1
    Very good article and photos comparison.
    The article is blatant lies. The same as Scott Hamilton on TV with his blatant lies. They literally just make up whatever palatable story than can come up with to cover up the rigged judging.

    Guess what...this time it's not working!

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    http://i57.tinypic.com/1zzl7o7.jpg

    Difficulty of the jumps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gds102 View Post
    http://i57.tinypic.com/1zzl7o7.jpg

    Difficulty of the jumps.
    Yeah, but those "equal" jumps Adelina did were better than Kim's. The height isn't comparable

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    Quote Originally Posted by koatcue View Post
    Yeah, but those "equal" jumps Adelina did were better than Kim's. The height isn't comparable
    Because height is the primary criteria for evaluating jumps. Forget flow, edging, speed, air position, landing, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koatcue View Post
    Yeah, but those "equal" jumps Adelina did were better than Kim's. The height isn't comparable
    It is undeniable that Adelina has huge jumps, even if one can argue that they don't always seem well controlled (but since she landed them, they were), but it's not like Kim has puny jumps and Kim's ones have smoother flow out. Kim's solo lutz was a bit scratchy, but then again Adelina had a step-out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartlebooth View Post
    It is undeniable that Adelina has huge jumps, even if one can argue that they don't always seem well controlled (but since she landed them, they were), but it's not like Kim has puny jumps and Kim's ones have smoother flow out. Kim's solo lutz was a bit scratchy, but then again Adelina had a step-out.
    Yes she lands, with two foot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koatcue View Post
    Yeah, but those "equal" jumps Adelina did were better than Kim's. The height isn't comparable
    It's called "Figure skating" for a reason.
    Yuna's jumps have beautiful flows and shape. Not to mention they travel further.
    Don't get me wrong, I do think Adelina is extremely talented but the height of her 2A+3T jump is the only thing that grabs my attention compared to other qualities of yuna, mao and kostner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangtongfan View Post
    Umm no and if she did Kim and Kostner should have had higher on most all of theirs than they got.

    It is hilarious there are still a few delusional Sotnikovabots trying to convince anyone else the result was remotedly justifiable.
    They're trying really hard. What the heck. Really, if they keep tear down Yuna and Caro, do they actually think it might eventually stick?

    Look, Adelina already got gold. Apparently she's that good. If you're assured in that win, there's no need to try to tear Yuna down again and again since obviously she is apparently not that good a skater. Then it should be obvious to everyone with eyes that Adelina is much better and Yuna just doesn't cut it, right? Why bother trying to convince us with words, then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegarin
    They're trying really hard. What the heck. Really, if they keep tear down Yuna and Caro, do they actually think it might eventually stick?
    What are you talking about?! There are some people who try to defend Adelina, that's all. Who keeps tearing down Yuna and Caro?!
    God, I even thought too that Yuna/Caro should have been above Adelina, but all this bitching and whining against the poor girl made me REALLY want to defend her (and you can write beneath your text 'oh, this is not against Adelina' all you want, a good junk of posters here are bashing Adelina). The marks were unjustified, but spaming a dozen different GS threads with the same comments again and again will not do the trick. The ISU is way to afraid of big (fair) changes, and as long as the majority of peittions focus on Yuna getting the gold over Adelina, this is the only thing where the ISU will even act like they care about it. The rest will go on the same way it did before.

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    Said this before but I'll say it again: we cannot deny Mao had a fantastic LP and for it to score 7 points below Sotnikova was all sorts of WRONG WRONG WRONG.

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