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    The 1 Loop Jump in a jump combo

    I'm hoping its just me and I'm searching for words of encouragement here. I try to stay positive about skating and find the best in it. However I find the 1Lo in the middle of a jump combination to be very disruptive and kind of ugly(like a bird with a broken wing). To me it's similar to a beautiful Christmas tree but a few lights are burnt out and my OCD takes over until I eventually find replacement bulbs and tidy it up. Maybe I'm over analyzing here but maybe some positive insight/words of encouragement could help me not when I see it and instead

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    I agree. When I first see one, my reaction is always that a mistake has been made . Just can't get used to them.

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    The loop is used to reset the take off edge for the third jump of the half loop combo, such as shifting to a back inside edge for a triple salchow.

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    I know! It always looks like the skater made a mistake and had to hop on the other foot to keep from falling. Either that or he forgot is choreography and then said, oops, I was supposed to do another jump there.

    I think we will get used to it, though, as more and more skaters use that trick to squeeze in an extra jump without Zayak problems. I finally got used to Patrick Chan's half-loop combo. I think the key is to really stomp on the half-loop, like you are saying, yes, this really is what I am trying to do!

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    I don't like half-loop combos either.

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    No, I dislike the half-loop in the middle of combos too. I find it generally unattractive and every time I see it my brain immediately just thinks it's a mistake. The problem is that it's not a seamless motion. Hopping into the half-loop is usually awkward and then there is this disruptive delay before the take-off into the salchow. Patrick Chan occasionally make it look alright, and Hanyu's at Japanese nationals wasn't too bad either, but it's just an unattractive move. More generally, I'm not too big of a fan of most people's 3-jump combo's, but that's a different story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icey View Post
    I agree. When I first see one, my reaction is always that a mistake has been made . Just can't get used to them.
    Ditto.

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    It's ridiculous and ugly! I think Patrick Chan is only person I've seen that has made it look semi-OK..

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    All single (=placed at the beginning of combo, or no combo) Loops are awkward in my eyes. I guess it's the awkwardly long, no short, no long... length of gliding time into it? It's always so... off by not too much, but awkward much. Looks so unbalanced. Though, I was okay when they came as the second part of a 3-3Lo or 3-2Lo, since the combo in-between timing suits Loops better. Single Loops I didn't hate (not like) were timed less awkward, but they are often technically not great loops. Maybe I'm just not a fan of backward takeoff edge jumps, since I also like salchow less than toe jumps; good salchows are great.

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    I'm waiting for someone to do 3Lz-2Lo-3S combo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melon View Post
    I'm waiting for someone to do 3Lz-2Lo-3S combo
    haha, that would have to be someone absolutely OBSESSED with getting the maximum points possible from their jumping passes..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkun View Post
    haha, that would have to be someone absolutely OBSESSED with getting the maximum points possible from their jumping passes..
    It would be interesting to see multirevolution jumps used as setups for the 3S. Like a 2(one-foot)Axel-3S combination. I'd love to see that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkun View Post
    haha, that would have to be someone absolutely OBSESSED with getting the maximum points possible from their jumping passes..
    Shoosh. Don't tell Plushy.

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    Maria Butyrskaya's use of the .5 loop was funny (it seemed as if her knees cracked). Sasha Cohen's .5 loop in between her 3TL-3S combo (often displayed in her Rach #2 from the 02-03 season), was so much aesthetically pleasant.

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    i like that combination. i like how hanyu does it in particular. my fav though is plushenkos 3axel 1 loop 3flip. crazy combination and it hasnt been peformed since.

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