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Thread: Ashley Wagner's chances going forward?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandpiper View Post
    I hope Ashley can regain her national title and get some good international results going forward. With Yuna gone and Mao possibly gone, I've actually latched onto Ashley a bit. I love how she attacks her programs and has this edge to her, rather than being some pretty ice princess. She has her own style and she knows how to sell a routine. I really hope she's the leading US lady for the next quad (sorry, I find Gracie too pageanty. Polina has potential and I like what I saw at Worlds, but she's yet to get the fire that Ashley has).

    I'm not enough of a tech expert to figure out what Ashley has to do to get there, but I wish her all the best.
    I agree with you completely. Ashley has the personality and artistic range that Gracie and Polina have yet to show. Gracie is more technically capable than she is, but Gracie has a long way to go in terms of expression (she can't just keep up the whole ice-princess thing). I also look forward to seeing Polina in the future, since she needs to grow into her body and still looks a bit awkward/coltish. As far as I'm concerned, at this point Ashley is the most promising of the U.S. ladies and I wouldn't write her off for the next quadrennial.

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    She's almost 23 and all the top contenders now are pretty much teenagers (suppose Mao is not in the picture).

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandpiper View Post
    Well, we'll wait and see. Carolina won an Olympic medal at 27, so I won't write Ashley off just yet. Then again, I'm not invested in Team USA as a whole. I simply like Ashley the best of the current crop of girls and want her to do well.

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    I have to say, my heart has changed so much for Ashley. The way she moves, glides, and sells her performances on the ice is captivating. I just wish she had the technical merit to back her up, because she is superb everywhere else. She will have to make some good decisions if she ever wants to stand a fighting chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianSkaterGuy View Post
    Wagner is a bit of a Suzuki for me. She can be brilliant and the best in her country when she's on, but has some technical issues and prone to a 3-3< that holds her back from being at the top, as well as not really credited by the judges PCS-wise.
    Well-said. Both are beautiful skaters but occasionally struggle with their jumps. I just hope that Ashley can replicate the kind of career Akiko has had...to think that she turned 29 when she competed at Worlds last month is pretty amazing. People have been quick to point out that Ashley will be 26 by the time Pyeongchang rolls around and new talent will have emerged, but if she can keep up her health and work on some of her elements there's no reason she shouldn't make the Olympic team.

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    I'm usually not a big fan of seeing skaters recycle programs, but I think it would serve her well to keep the Pink Floyd short for next year. She seems to love it, and it would give her more time to focus on her elements rather than laying out 2 brand new programs. Maybe bring out a new costume for it, like a sparkly unitard.
    Obviously, for the long, she just need to start fresh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desertskates View Post
    I'm usually not a big fan of seeing skaters recycle programs, but I think it would serve her well to keep the Pink Floyd short for next year. She seems to love it, and it would give her more time to focus on her elements rather than laying out 2 brand new programs. Maybe bring out a new costume for it, like a sparkly unitard.
    Obviously, for the long, she just need to start fresh.
    I wonder if a tango or a flamenco might be good for Ashley's free skate. She seems to do better when she's embodying a feisty character and programs with Latin music have that spice built in.

    She could keep the Pink Floyd program or not. I loved it, but I think it might feel a bit tired the second time around. She does need something modern. Something like Carolina Kostner's short program in '08 would suit Ashley well, IMO.

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    Absolutely doable unless she loses a leg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandpiper View Post
    Well, we'll wait and see. Carolina won an Olympic medal at 27, so I won't write Ashley off just yet. Then again, I'm not invested in Team USA as a whole. I simply like Ashley the best of the current crop of girls and want her to do well.
    I also hope Wagner will do well. She has a refreshing attitude away from the prototypical American ice princess and a maturity that is lacking in the Russian jumping babes. Unfortunately, I think it will be a tall order with the judges. Tech wise, Wagner simply does not have the speed and deep edges and basic skating skills like Kostner or the commanding artistic presence of a Kim or Asada. Pushing the technical contents with a stable 3-3 is probably easier than improving her PCS, as I don't think her edge work and edge stability is quite at the top level.

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