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"ISU Challenger Series Figure Skating" - per Communication No. 1854

GF2445

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I actually think it will. Lets not get negative now. Lets wait and see.... And the we can be negative about it ;)
 

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Also I'm curious what the value of the ranking system will hold. Will there be a prize to win at the end, or money?

samson: Please see the link in GF2445's post above for ISU Communication No. 1858, a five-page document that includes information such as:
- the Challenger Series ranking
- World Standing points
- Prize money​

ETA, see also post #21 from Doris on page 2 of this thread (which is a merger of the old and new threads).


Thanks, BG. And thanks to the mods for merging the old and new threads.
 

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But I am wondering whether U.S. Figure Skating and Skate Canada will be sending skaters to fewer Senior Bs this autumn for some reason related to the new Challenger Series???

For the new season, the USFS assignments page has empty placeholder slots only for SLC.
IIRC, at the beginning of seasons past, it has had empty placeholders for several Senior Bs -- Nebelhorn, Finlandia, Nepela, Coupe de Nice, and perhaps others. ...

Well, that would suck, if the net result was fewer international opportunities for US Skaters! Not to mention counter-intuitive.

One alternate theory: Since they just found out which events will be part of the Challenger Series, they didn't even know which ones to list on the site since the Challenger Series will be the primary focus in the fall.

Total speculation, of course.

Good news: I see today that U.S. Figure Skating has updated its assignments page -- adding empty placeholder boxes for six Challenger events (in addition to SLC).
  • Lombardia Trophy
  • Nebelhorn Trophy
  • Nepela Trophy
  • Finlandia Trophy
  • Autumn Classic Intl. (in Canada)
  • Ice Challenge
http://usfigureskating.org/Athletes.asp?id=216

Happy that BG's theory was a good one. Apologies for my pessimism/false alarm.
 

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Sorry if this is a stupid question... but if an event is part of the Challenger series, are there any minimum requirements as to which disciplines they must include in their competitions? Or do they just carry on as they always have?

For example, Finlandia Trophy hasn't included a Pairs competition since 2008 - will they be required to include Pairs, for the Challenger series?

In a similar vein - what about gala exhibitions? I don't know if Finlandia has ever held those, but the last two years they didn't...

I did try to find the answers, but the ISU site is currently showing error messages when I try to access it... and I didn't find any answers by googling... :-/
 

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Sorry if this is a stupid question... but if an event is part of the Challenger series, are there any minimum requirements as to which disciplines they must include in their competitions? Or do they just carry on as they always have?

For example, Finlandia Trophy hasn't included a Pairs competition since 2008 - will they be required to include Pairs, for the Challenger series? ...

Each International Competition ... must include at least 3 disciplines of the Figure Skating Branch (Men, Ladies, Pair Skating, Ice Dance).

per ISU Communication No. 1858
 

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Revision of Minimum Entry Criteria to Qualify as Challenger Series Event (ISU Communication No. 1894) -- see excerpt below:

... the monitoring of the ongoing entries to the above-mentioned International Competitions indicates that the set minimum number of entries appears to be too high and by no fault of their own certain Organizing Committees/Organized Members might not be able to meet this entries criteria.

Therefore in order to maintain and secure the main purpose of this series, namely to give adequate opportunities for many Skaters (mostly not qualified to enter Grand Prix events) to compete at the international senior level and earn World Standing Points, the Council determined to apply the following (revised) criteria for an International Competition to become a Challenger Series event:

A minimum of the following entries at the time of the draw are required for the identified International Competitions (which are lower than those stated in para 2 of Communication 1858):

 a minimum of 12 Members must have made entries (in total - not per category, which is unchanged from Communication 1858)
 Men: 8 entries from 4 Members (instead of 15 entries from 7 Members as para 2 of Communication 1858)
 Ladies: 8 entries from 4 Members (instead of 15 entries from 7 Members as per para 2 of Communication 1858)
 Pairs: 5 entries from 3 Members (instead of 8 entries from 4 Members as per para 2 of Communication 1858)
 Ice Dance: 6 entries from 4 Members (instead of 10 entries from 5 Members as per para 2 of Communication 1858)​

The other criteria as stated in Communication 1858 remain unchanged.

Provided that the above mentioned criteria are met, the event in question will be considered to be a full part of the ISU Challenger Series with all further consequences, e.g. full ISU contribution, higher World Standing Points, ranking within the ISU Challenger Series, participating in the Challenger Series Prize Money etc.

In the case that one discipline within an event of the ISU Challenger Series does not meet the above mentioned revised minimum number of participants, this discipline will not be considered as part of the ISU Challenger Event. Consequently no World Standing Points would be awarded for this discipline and the participants of the discipline in question would not be awarded points for the special ranking of the series. The event, however, would still count for “Seasons Best Score” and “Minimum total Technical Score”.

ETA:

Re events that announced their entries before the criteria were revised:
- The Salt Lake City Classic had not met all of the original criteria, but meets all of the revised criteria.
- As of Aug 25, Lombardia Trophy still does not meet the revised criterion for Pairs.
- Nebelhorn from the beginning met all of the original criteria.
- Nepela had not met all of the original criteria, but meets all of the revised criteria.
- The Skate Canada Autumn Classic had just barely missed meeting all of the original criteria, and meets all of the revised criteria.​

Re events that announced their entries after the criteria were revised:
- Finlandia would not have met all of the original criteria, but meets all of the revised criteria.​
 

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Thankfully they lowered the limits. Would have been kind of sad for the first year of the Challenger Series to have half its competitions not count for the points because of lack of registration.

Maybe they can progressively raise the requirements each year to a point, as the Challenger Series catches on.
 
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