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    Friendship - what can be better than that?
    But I was wondering since I read an article written by a Japanese writer after Sochi about why Japanese ladies couldn't be on the podium. Her point is there is something to do with their good relationship. In Torino, Arakawa and Suguri were known as severe rivals. They didn't talk each other for years prior to that. It was a big surprise that Fumie asked Shizuka an advice on her spin before the competition in Torino.
    And now Mao, Akiko and Kanako are like the best sisters in the world. (I suppose it's not only them, the whole Japanese top skaters have good relationships each other.) So probably that's caused something, when the one wasn't successful to beat the nerve at the biggest competition, the others were drawn to the same direction. Could be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden411 View Post
    Thx for the Nagasu update, sk8ingcoach.

    Can you tell us anything about Zawadzki's plans for the future? Will she continue to compete, and will she stick with Tom Z and BC?
    Zakrajec is convinced hat Agnes will sick around because she doesn't know what to do with herself without skating life. He also said that Agnes is enjoying coming to training while Mirai has been with her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sk8ingcoach View Post
    Zakrajec is convinced hat Agnes will sick around because she doesn't know what to do with herself without skating life. He also said that Agnes is enjoying coming to training while Mirai has been with her.
    Thx, sk8ingcoach. Pls continue to keep us posted on both ladies.

    Nice to hear that training together has been and is a good experience for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden411 View Post
    Thx, sk8ingcoach. Pls continue to keep us posted on both ladies.

    Nice to hear that training together has been and is a good experience for them.
    It would be a fascinating ladies event at nationals next year if both girls lit a fire under each other and came out ready to shake up that podium!


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    Agnes is done

    so is Flatt, Gao - full time Harvard plans now ?and Zhang
    Nagasu - too inconsistent and age is not on her side

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    Agnes is done

    so is Flatt, Gao - full time Harvard plans now ?and Zhang
    Nagasu - too inconsistent and age is not on her side
    This is a thread about these two young ladies and their current skating situation discussed by supportive fans.
    If you have nothing good to say about it, then dont say anything at all!
    No need to spread your negative opinion about certain skaters again and again. We understand by now that anyone who's not gracie gold is a bad skater and should just kill herself.
    It's gotten really annoying.

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    Just hope Mirai doesn't end up with Zakrajec as a coach. Never met him, but he has always been among my least favored coaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    Agnes is done

    so is Flatt, Gao - full time Harvard plans now ?and Zhang
    Nagasu - too inconsistent and age is not on her side
    If Nagasu gets a consistent coach that works with her style and helps her with more technical stuff, as well as consistency - I think she still has some opportunity. Mirai's only 20, she has some time left.

    Gracie's only two years younger than Mirai, and Wagner is two years older. Wagner's already said she's shooting for Pyeongchang - in this case, time is favoring Mirai over Ashley. And if Mirai can keep doing programs with the same fire she did at Nationals, she could still have a future in the sport. And for all you know, Gracie could be taking the same spiral that Mirai did - placing right off the podium at her first Olympics then losing consistency. It's improbable but there is a chance it could happen.

    Flatt retired with class and dignity after doing her best while on a full Stanford workload. Gao placed right off the podium this year at Skate Canada while on a full Harvard workload. Zhang, I will admit, has been off her game for a while now, but there's no need to target them in a thread about Mirai and her hopes for the future.

    I hope being in SOI will light the fire under Mirai and encourage her to keep going forward. I hope she continues to train and act with class and dignity even after the Sochi decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fleeting View Post
    If Nagasu gets a consistent coach that works with her style and helps her with more technical stuff, as well as consistency - I think she still has some opportunity. Mirai's only 20, she has some time left.

    Gracie's only two years younger than Mirai, and Wagner is two years older. Wagner's already said she's shooting for Pyeongchang - in this case, time is favoring Mirai over Ashley. And if Mirai can keep doing programs with the same fire she did at Nationals, she could still have a future in the sport. And for all you know, Gracie could be taking the same spiral that Mirai did - placing right off the podium at her first Olympics then losing consistency. It's improbable but there is a chance it could happen.

    Flatt retired with class and dignity after doing her best while on a full Stanford workload. Gao placed right off the podium this year at Skate Canada while on a full Harvard workload. Zhang, I will admit, has been off her game for a while now, but there's no need to target them in a thread about Mirai and her hopes for the future.

    I hope being in SOI will light the fire under Mirai and encourage her to keep going forward. I hope she continues to train and act with class and dignity even after the Sochi decision.
    Mirai cannot continue to be nonchalant about her skating. There are other girls perhaps more hungry coming up who also have better jumps and age is on their side.

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    I so wish Agnes had the $$ to go to another coach. There is an elegant skater in her.....I see bits of it at times. I just don't think Z et al know what to do with Agnes. I also hope Mirai looks elsewhere for coaching.

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    I felt for some time Polina Edmunds is a younger, and probably a better version of Agnes. So Agnes decided not to retire after all. Competition next year is going to be tough as well at nationals.

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    Tom is not one of my favorite coaches, but I don't think he would be that bad of a coach for Mirai. He does have a reputation for being able to teach the jumps. That's what she needs. She can always look elsewhere for choreography.

    I also don't see Agnes going any further. Her nerves are just not cut out for competition. It is just torture watching her trying to compete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fleeting View Post
    If Nagasu gets a consistent coach that works with her style and helps her with more technical stuff, as well as consistency - I think she still has some opportunity. Mirai's only 20, she has some time left.

    Gracie's only two years younger than Mirai, and Wagner is two years older. Wagner's already said she's shooting for Pyeongchang - in this case, time is favoring Mirai over Ashley. And if Mirai can keep doing programs with the same fire she did at Nationals, she could still have a future in the sport. And for all you know, Gracie could be taking the same spiral that Mirai did - placing right off the podium at her first Olympics then losing consistency. It's improbable but there is a chance it could happen.

    Flatt retired with class and dignity after doing her best while on a full Stanford workload. Gao placed right off the podium this year at Skate Canada while on a full Harvard workload. Zhang, I will admit, has been off her game for a while now, but there's no need to target them in a thread about Mirai and her hopes for the future.

    I hope being in SOI will light the fire under Mirai and encourage her to keep going forward. I hope she continues to train and act with class and dignity even after the Sochi decision.
    Actually, Gao took a leave of absence from Harvard to train/compete this season. She has not been taking classes since her first semester as a freshman at Harvard.

    Zawadski: she needs an influx of funds to keep training at the highest level and that is unlikely. She also needs a "skate whisperer"... Someone who can reign in her nerves. :-/

    Flatt was a class act in Boston. :-). Went out on her own terms. She looked so happy at the conclusion of her LP and beautiful in her SP.

    Nagasu: also needs funds to continue to train at the highest level. She should be at least on the B envelope with USFS, but she really needs someone who will help her completely narrow her focus on each individual element within a program, so that she doesn't make the mistakes that have have marred her programs in recent years.

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    It's really terrible how things have turned for Mirai. She's so talented. Watching Mirai is as frustrating as watching Jeremy. They're both so talented. They could even be olympic gold medalists and world champions. I think she should go to Orser and maybe represent Canada. It's strange skating is popular in Canada but you don't see too many great female skaters. Osmond doesn't really do it for me. She's second tier, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nigel View Post
    Nagasu: also needs funds to continue to train at the highest level. She should be on the B envelope with USFS,
    I thought Mirai was on B envelope this year due to a bronze medal at NHK (2012-13) season. I thought a bronze at Boston Nationals this year would put her in envelope A next year, though I could be wrong. She should also get some kind of paycheck for all the SOI tour appearances coming up.

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