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    The Start of New Skaters in 2014 Worlds

    though Mao will be favored to win Worlds with home advantage and to end her season/career ? on a high note
    2014 Worlds will also mark the start of new blood of skaters with the likes of Gracie leading the new generation, aside from Mao
    new young and fresh skaters are looking for a podium finish, maybe even a gold medal for Gracie
    speed, power, fast spins, big jumps and body type is what the New Generation and CoP will be all about

    what and exciting new crop of skaters to be excited about
    time for the veterans to make way and give it to the new skaters !!

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    this might as well be called the 'gracie gold is the gr8est sk8r ever' thread. do you want some kleenex to clean up after yourself or something

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    Quote Originally Posted by hyperinflation View Post
    this might as well be called the 'gracie gold is the gr8est sk8r ever' thread. do you want some kleenex to clean up after yourself or something
    Gracie is one of the bright stars in the coming 2014-2018 quad
    and there are other talented skaters too but for now, Gracie is the safest bet to become a multiple World Champion.
    2016 Worlds, she has a high chance of winning in Boston

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    Quote Originally Posted by hyperinflation View Post
    this might as well be called the 'gracie gold is the gr8est sk8r ever' thread. do you want some kleenex to clean up after yourself or something

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    One thing we've all learned is that new skaters can pop up in the twinkling of an eye, so we may be greeting champions in a few years who are barely a blip on the radar now. But if things go on as they are now, Gracie, several of the Russians, and some others from Canada and Japan especially seem poised to make a run for the top ranks.

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    I'm ready for some new faces at the top, quite frankly.

    But first, the season must end. Kim is the only one that has officially retired; I think Lipnitskaya is the only "new face" with a very strong shot at a medal (and the win). Gold could contend, too, if on and the top name(s) make mistakes.

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    Seriously, how many more of these threads do you need!

    Gracie wasn't even good enough to medal in the individual event in Sochi and you are still exhibiting the same if not greater rabid fanaticism.

    Also, your statement that Gracie is the safest best to become a multiple World champion is ridiculous, when she hasn't even made the Grand Prix Final, skated a clean SP+LP, or even won any international event. Lipnitskaia is a far more obvious choice.

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    After the "old" generation is gone, after 2014 worlds, I think that those who will fight for the next world titles / olympic titles are
    ladies: sotnikova for sure. zijun li ha a great potential. lipnitskaia, only if she finally develops some speed and height in the jumps. gold only if she finds some artistry and does not skate as a boring robot anymore.
    men: hanyu and fernandez for sure, they'll be on the next podiums. ten will be there on top. I think brown will never have a breakthrough as he doesn't have the jumps.

    I'll say it clearly as here there are a lot of posters from usa/canada who each time push non credible skaters as the next "stars": you have to wait. I see no skaters with the "X" factor from usa/canada at the moment (beside patrick chan who is probably leaving soon).

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    I think the problem with prediction posts like this is that everyone forgets that in the USA, Russia, and Japan (probably other countries too, I just don't know them as well) there is an incredibly deep field of figure skating talent. We only really see a lot of the current best that these countries are sending to international tournaments, but hardly anyone had really heard of Julia Lipnitskaya before about a year ago, so there's no saying who we'll see steal the show in 2018 or even say in 2016/2017 Worlds. Okay, it's incredibly unlikely that Japan's going to manage to field a OGM class pair or ice dance team any time soon, but who knows? In many ways I'm both sad and excited, because while a lot of my favourite skaters are retiring, at the same time this means we get to see other skaters come into their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClockwiseSpinner View Post
    After the "old" generation is gone, after 2014 worlds, I think that those who will fight for the next world titles / olympic titles are
    ladies: sotnikova for sure. zijun li ha a great potential. lipnitskaia, only if she finally develops some speed and height in the jumps. gold only if she finds some artistry and does not skate as a boring robot anymore.
    men: hanyu and fernandez for sure, they'll be on the next podiums. ten will be there on top. I think brown will never have a breakthrough as he doesn't have the jumps.

    I'll say it clearly as here there are a lot of posters from usa/canada who each time push non credible skaters as the next "stars": you have to wait. I see no skaters with the "X" factor from usa/canada at the moment (beside patrick chan who is probably leaving soon).
    For the men, I think it's easier. Barring injury disasters, Hanyu and Fernandez seem like safe bets. I like Ten, but I'm concerned he won't hold up through his foot problems.
    Brown, I'm reserving judgment on. He doesn't have any quads yet, but the talk is that he's working on it. If he can add the quads to his programs, he's got just as good a chance as the others (again, barring injury). From everything I've heard about him, he's ahead of where he thought he'd be at this point in his career, so I'm willing to give him a little time. That being said, if he's going to have that quad (and a really good triple axel) by 2018, I'd like to see him putting them in competition as soon as possible.

    In the ladies, it's more of a shot in the dark. Actually, of the skaters you listed, Gracie Gold might be the safest shot, even though she's not my favorite. She's the opposite of Jason Brown – she already has the jumps, and if she stays with Frank Carroll, her artistry should only improve. The U.S. women are tough, but I don't think they're as tough as the Russians. Gracie's got room to have an off-day or two at Nationals and still be one of the top ladies. Zijun Li is very good, but she doesn't strike me as spectacular. She doesn't have the "wow" factor yet to push her above the other top girls.
    The Russians are the most interesting to me. With them both being Olympic gold medalists, I can imagine the Russian Federation going in multiple directions. If no one else steps up to challenge them, they might stay in the top two/three through the next quad. If the other girls do, the Federation might push them aside in 3-4 years to give others a chance. Or those medals might be their insurance policy to set them apart from the others. Or they might hold up one and push aside the other, or one might struggle with expectations/puberty/pressure. The Russian Federation seems to either be its skaters' best friend or their worst enemy. The possibilities are almost endless.

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    Gracie will probably never become a world champion :( It's so sad

    Julia and Zijun are the future. I think Mao's staying in for at least 2 more years

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    speed, power, fast spins, big jumps and body type is what the New Generation and CoP will be all about
    Ummmm body type? What the heck does that have to do with CoP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hyperinflation View Post
    this might as well be called the 'gracie gold is the gr8est sk8r ever' thread. do you want some kleenex to clean up after yourself or something

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    Quote Originally Posted by L_Canada View Post
    Ummmm body type? What the heck does that have to do with CoP.
    Their perving is getting out of hand lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by hyperinflation View Post
    this might as well be called the 'gracie gold is the gr8est sk8r ever' thread. do you want some kleenex to clean up after yourself or something
    I don't think Kleenex will do the job. Here, I've got some Clorox and a mop...

    I will say I'm looking forward to seeing how some of the girls develop, though. Yulia L. and Li Zijun being my favorites is this group.

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