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Thread: The Start of New Skaters in 2014 Worlds

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    Quote Originally Posted by hyperinflation View Post
    this might as well be called the 'gracie gold is the gr8est sk8r ever' thread. do you want some kleenex to clean up after yourself or something
    I have to admit I crack up every time I read this. I have no shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pointyourtoe View Post
    Gracie will probably never become a world champion :( It's so sad

    Julia and Zijun are the future. I think Mao's staying in for at least 2 more years
    You think? :\ ,
    I already have her predicted as the 2006 Wolrd Lysacek in Boston.

    But yes, It's so weird looking at Ladies after he age of Kim\Kostner\Asada,

    I can see both Wagner and Gold threatening medals in the next couple of years, And any of the Russians making it through in whichever year trying to hold them
    down, I can't see any other European country threatening medals, And I'd imagine we'll get athletes from Japan and South Korea (4CC next year) getting pushed towards 2-3 years from now, i would love to see Edmunds rise, Her body is interesting to watch, I hate hate hate her SP ballroom choreography though !

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    Unfortunately, Canada doesn't look all that promising - although it rarely does in the ladies event. I know a lot of people like Kaetlyn Osmond. However, she reminds me a lot of Jennifer Robinson. I actually hold out more hope for Gabrielle Daleman.

    We'll see.

    I don't think the next Olympic cycle will be fantastic for Canada.

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    We'll just have to wait and see. Polina, Julia, Elena, Karen etc. all have to finish growing and who knows how their skating quality/jumps will be after that? Gracie has had a ton of hype heaped upon her and she's definitely improved her nerves issue with Frank's help but who knows if she'll be able to live up to all the hype the USFSA has produced about her? Even at her best it may not be entirely up to her, as we have seen--at any time some new star can rise up out of nowhere and knock you down the podium and that's that. Looking forward to seeing how the new hierarchy arranges itself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkateToronto View Post
    Unfortunately, Canada doesn't look all that promising - although it rarely does in the ladies event. I know a lot of people like Kaetlyn Osmond. However, she reminds me a lot of Jennifer Robinson. I actually hold out more hope for Gabrielle Daleman.

    We'll see.

    I don't think the next Olympic cycle will be fantastic for Canada.
    I think Daleman has potential. She skates with a lot of speed and attacks her programs. Same with Osmond, who I'd like to see diversify in her program choices and interpretation.

    It's nice to have Canadian women who don't have a frail deer-in-headlights look, but who actually go out there and skate with confidence.

    I don't think they'll be World medal contenders with the depth of the field, but they can certainly get GP medals and top 10 finishes at Worlds to maintain spots.

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    I'd take Daleman over Osmond as with the better longevity in their career
    Daleman has good jumps and good arsenal while Osmond cant barely get a 3-2 let alone just a 3T-3T, she Flutzes and falls occasionally in the FS

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    Kwanatic's breakdown is pretty spectacular. I think this quad will be all about the U.S. and Russian ladies. I am confident that Adelina can be in it until 2018 and will probably rack up a whole bunch of titles. She finally learned how to compete this season. The sky is truly the limit for her considering her talent level. I can only hope that she uses this time to truly improve artistically and not rest on her laurels. Domestic competition should at least keep her on her toes. Yulia has always worried me. That flexibility can't last forever, and her jumps can be scary (particularly the double axel). I've always thought 2014 was her year, and I am unsure of her prospects going forward. The same goes for the other Russian wunderkinds, but I have a lot of faith in Elena Radionova for whatever reason. That girl has a killer instinct and will do whatever it takes to win. I feel like she is going to will herself through puberty and win World medals no matter what happens. The opposite is true of Anna Pogorilaya, who seems to have the right body to hold out through 2018, but she seems to lack the drive and focus of some of the other top Russian girls. The way she just sat there after falling at the end of her GPF long program is deeply troubling to me.

    Gracie has really come into her own at the end of this season, and I for sure see her contending for World titles. Polina is another one who has that competitive instinct and could do very well for herself over the next four years. As for the rest of the U.S. Ladies.....hard to say. There are certainly bright spots (Karen Chen especially). That third spot could be a wild card for the next few years. Or it will probably just go to Ashley Wagner until she retires.....who knows.

    I'm really pulling for Satoko Miyahara to come through for Japan. She has such a lovely, unique style and is a marvelous spinner. Li Zijun has World Champion potential, but she needs a lot of work. I wasn't particularly impressed with her level of performance in Sochi. She stayed on her feet, but it was all a bit vacant and low energy.

    I'm also excited about ice dance going forward. Pyeongchang is already Ilinykh/Katsalapov's to lose, but as we all know, they can really crash and burn and throw things away. The burden is on Elena and Nikita to focus and deliver for the next four years. Cappellini/Lanotte have an extraordinary opportunity to land on the World podium multiple times between now and 2018....I sincerely hope they stick with it and don't retire. However, they will be the elder statesmen of the ice dance world. Ditto Weaver/Poje, who should benefit from being Canada's number one for the foreseeable future. I wonder what the future holds for Bobrova/Soloviev. Now that I/K have firmly established themselves as Russian #1, I hope the judges completely dump B/S. They were so painfully out of their league in the final free dance flight in Sochi.

    The Americans have exciting prospects, but it may be awhile before they're back on the Worlds podium. Chock/Bates are probably good for a National title or two, but Hubbell/Donohue could be biting at their heels. Hawayek/Baker could be on the way up next season, and Aldridge/Eaton have potential. It might even be tough for the Shibs to make it out of Nationals should they continue.

    I am also very excited about Papadakis/Cizeron, Hurtado/Diaz, and Gilles/Poirer. Honestly, those were my three favorite free dances of the season, and I hope international judges start to recognize the innovation they bring to the sport. I'd love to see all three teams consistently in the Worlds top 10 going forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkateToronto View Post
    Unfortunately, Canada doesn't look all that promising - although it rarely does in the ladies event. I know a lot of people like Kaetlyn Osmond. However, she reminds me a lot of Jennifer Robinson. I actually hold out more hope for Gabrielle Daleman.

    We'll see.

    I don't think the next Olympic cycle will be fantastic for Canada.
    Well, depends. It likely won't be as promising as this past cycle, of course. I don't know about gold medals, but we do have medal hopes currently. Although that could mean nothing 4 years from now. Our main hopes are W/P, Chan (if he sticks around) MT/M and D/R (I have more faith in MT/M though). I've also got my eye on Nam Nguyen for the future, just got a funny feeling about that kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kresslia View Post
    Well, depends. It likely won't be as promising as this past cycle, of course. I don't know about gold medals, but we do have medal hopes currently. Although that could mean nothing 4 years from now. Our main hopes are W/P, Chan (if he sticks around) MT/M and D/R (I have more faith in MT/M though). I've also got my eye on Nam Nguyen for the future, just got a funny feeling about that kid.
    Are W&P planning to stay as long as another Olympics? I kind of assumed they would probably depart at some point before the next Olympics. I guess it depends on how things go season by season.

    Chan doesn't sound like he will go to another Olympics, but he says he is interested in going to another Worlds.

    I also assume that D&R will move on before the next Olympics, but maybe they'll take it year by year, too. M-T&M say they're planning to go for another Olympics, even though Dylan is getting 'old' in pairs skating terms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    I'd take Daleman over Osmond as with the better longevity in their career
    Daleman has good jumps and good arsenal while Osmond cant barely get a 3-2 let alone just a 3T-3T, she Flutzes and falls occasionally in the FS

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    same, I want all veterans to retire after 2014 Worlds
    and make room for the new blood
    I want them to stay because old ginger tastes hotter. Too much green is boring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. P View Post
    Well Radionova has already competed in seniors in the GP/GPF. But she will be fully senior in 2014-2015.

    Ladies:
    Amber Glenn, USA : She will not be old enough for the GP until the 2015-2016 season. She will move up in the domestic level.
    Karen Chen USA: She also is not old enough, She will be in 2015-2016. She will likely move up at the domestic level.
    Maria Sotskova, RUS: Too young; won't qualify for GP until 2015-2016
    Evgenia Medvedeva, RUS: Won't qualify for GP until 2015-2016
    Alexandria Proklova, RUS: Won't qualify for GP until 2015-2016
    Serfima Sakhanovich, RUS: Won't qualify for GP until 2015-2016

    Basically, get ready for an ONSALUGHT OF NEW SENIOR SKATERS IN 2015-2016!!!!
    Whooooa.. there will be a lot of new Senior Ladies to watch out for if all these skaters jumps/technique survive their bodies changes and growth spurt. It seems like it will be an exciting 2015 - 2016 season.

    I also agree that based on what we've been seeing (depth of Russian field) it seems like in the next quad Russia will reign but I think the US Ladies will also have the chance to reach the podium and will try to dethrone them once in awhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    same, I want all veterans to retire after 2014 Worlds
    and make room for the new blood
    Sometimes I feel that way, but it's always hard to know whether that is a good thing or not. Obviously there needs to be new blood and movement, but it can sometimes be difficult to replace the veterans for a while since it can take the new skaters a while to reach that level. And some countries lose spots and entries to Worlds if their top skaters retire.

    But perhaps there were more veterans and older skaters staying on for this cycle than there was last time. It also seems that a few of the skaters we thought would retire in 2014 might not do so and may stay until 2018, or at least for a couple more years.

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    I thinks Chartrand is the best canadian for the future! so much better than Osmond and Daleman... her PB is higher in FS

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