-I'm calling b.s. on posters' statements and giving reasons as to why. That's not the same as throwing personal insults at posters.
@cuon_alpinus - Idk why you're showing me ice coverage when I was originally talking about choreography.
^I said Kim DIDN'T have a great deal of resting points in her program...
I already posted once, but I also have another thing to say. Seriously, who cares? Who seriously watches Adelina's skate gets amused and wants to be like her. All figure skating girls want to be like Yuna. You can deny it but you know it's true. I think people who are trying to defend Sotnikova is just dumb or just really tired of Yuna, which I can understand if someone is so powerful that goes beyond the figure skating community. Go on Youtube and see how much more views Yuna's Silver Medal performance has than Adelina's Gold Medal. It's literally double the size of the latter. And don't even ask about the likes, I actually feel terrible for Adelina, but karma sucks (Adelina you should know better and should save yourself from further mockery because it's only getting worse from now especially if Yuna is denied her Second Gold Medal, it's almost like waiting for the finale of the show). If you think Adelina had better and harder choreography, I'm sorry that you have a bad taste. I'm pretty sure your biases will change if you actually knew Yuna. So guys, this thread is so dumb. Remember she got 7th with this same program at Worlds and beat top 5 who had no mistakes other than Mao. Also the SECOND HIGHEST SCORE IN THE WORLD? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Yuna would knock her around any day during her Junior years.
You have taken fandom to a whole new level!
PS: If I were a skater, would rather be Sasha Cohen. She's prettier in my eyes. And her costumes are pieces of art.
Thank you for your sarcasm. I'm wondering now what you know so much about figure skating if you were never a figure skater, but a novice fan. No hate to non-skaters but seriously, have some experience to back it up, since you are indeed rude to a lot of people on this forum.I guess if this makes you feel better, simply put, Yuna was the beauty and Adelina was the beast. Fair? ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?
The bold part shows it all. No wonder people are scared of Yuna's fans.
I know for sure who is rude here. Who is insulting anyone disagree with his/her biased comment about his/her idol?
You are not even in the same group as Skyfly.<---- for Skyfly I know she will think of this as an insult.
Not everyone wants to be Yuna. I have seen countless videos of little Russian girls that say they want to grow up to be Yulia. At my rink some of the best young talent say they want to skate like Gracie and Ashley or Meryl. Why you think everyone wants to be Yuna stikes me as bit out of touch with others opinions. By that I mean some people may have a different feel for things. It's healthy and should be respected.
How many of Yuna's dedicated posters and YouTube commenters do you think skate? How many that signed the petition. Are there even 2 million FS in the world. How many in Korea? 5 rinks right. Lol
To the commentors above. Yes, Yuna is great and so are others. I love Yulia, much more than Adelina. She is beautiful on ice and I feel that she is much more mannered and can outshine any upcoming Korean skaters in Pyeonchang. In fact, I want her to win. I guess I went overboard, but I just don't get it when some people just put the obvious aside and don't appreciate the living legend who is with us today. But I guess everyone has different taste and opinions. And yes @ Sam-Skwantch, it is the underdog story why everyone loves Yuna. Maybe not everything is about skating, but she is the first to come out of her country with no figure skating or even ice rinks to come where she is today. There is no way you can deny that beauty. I'm just saying that people pick up on Yuna Kim just from reading textbooks, magazines etc., and I hope that she becomes much more than just an Olympic Medalist, but someone who can still bring that underdog story to all of us. I'm pretty sure this is not the last time we will be seeing her, in fact, I feel there are much more to come than there has been.
And I think her choreography this season did not help her at all. David Wilson also work with PChan, Javi and Hanyu this season, and all of their long programs recently are lackluster, despite their obvious talents. The same thing applies for Yuna. In my opinion, she should have tried out with other choreographers. David Wilson often applies the same style of choreography for all the skaters he had worked with.
When I google Yuna's review on her FS this season, the comments are quite diverse. So it's so obvious it's not as strong as her previous ones. People expect something more from the reigning Olympic champion, it's normal.
I don't like Adelina's style, but her choreography this season is not as bad as people think. It suits her sporty style. Just compare it to the Aguilera disaster that Tat gave her last season, her FS this year is pretty much decent. And her huge jumps help elevate the overall impression quite a bit.
Nevertheless, if CoP is purely about math, then it could have saved us a lot of scandal. The problem is it not. Those numbers are just a symbolic metaphor system, in which the judges express how much they were impressed by the skaters' performances. And they can always say it's subjective, that they like it this way, not that way. What can we do? The protocols couldn't prevent them from cheating as long as this anonymity continues.
I totally get your point of view. But the thing is the whole judging thing seems to screwed that I tend to go overboard to criticize Adelina. I think she would of won a respectful Silver, and a worthy bronze, but there are some things that need to be criticized about this whole figure skating thing in Sochi.
If you really watch Adios carefully, perhaps when you are having a gloomy day, the piece really tells you a story more than anything else. Even a little tightness in one of her jumps shows that she is human and for me it really kept me entertained because I felt I was skating with her. I feel that this is something Adelina needs to work on along with cleaning up her landings. She has years to mature, and I think this is where they cut her career short. And I'm sure of it.
Do you think Adelina could have performed Yuna's Adios with all the artistry and tightly packed moves and choreography? And do you think Yuna could of done the extra triple in Adelina's piece? I don't know, thinking about it makes me weird. They just don't seem right. I guess the point is that it's not about the exercise and it's not all about the artistry either as skating should be. But why was it all about the exercise in Sochi?
Would you rather see a beautiful slam dunk by Michael Jordan or growing and maturing College Star who has years to come before being comfortable in his own shoes?
Obviously, the whole judging was rigged. And I think it did not even matter that Yuna was not energetic enough. And you know that as well. This beauty will come only once in a lifetime, and I'm glad that we have this wonderful sport as an Olympic Sport, but I think we ruined it once again. I don't even know what the point of rigging the system if there was going to be a huge outcry from the world. I just wish that we can separate the politics from the beauty of this sport.
Adelina was definitely a top contender, and she has many years ahead of her to become a better skater in her own way. I just wish that this story could have gone beautifully for everyone but that is not the case. I wonder if Yuna was American this would happen. If not, it definitely has to do with playing games with the weaker federations. Which is not Olympics games should be.
IDK. There are many others who are still reviewing the skates over and over again, but at the end of the day, I'm going to watch those skates that matter to me as they are equally both beautiful and athletic. To me, Yuna's piece of true, and definitely was like a old wine that gets better within time. Perhaps your feeling will change about her piece as you get older, or even when you are watching in a different mood. When I watch her skate, I think about her life story to come where she was at Sochi. Her last competitive skate of her life. The end to her personal dynasty. I guess this is what you face when you are an avid fan who mesmerized you for years as I feel that I grew up with her. Her manners to the results of her skate was just legendary and really lived up to her name "Queen Yuna". It tells me that skating is only a part of her life, but also this is the truth of this world.
With all that said, I do have to disagree with you that Yuna was down. Look at her facial expression. They were not overdone like Adelina, but yet she told you a story. Even when there was a tightness in one of her jumps, I was so mesmerized that I felt that I was skating with her until her last pose. Her facial expressions are grandeur and elegant. This is something that Yuna was known for since her Junior years. Please, go ahead and watch that program again. Look at the beautiful choreography and transitions.