I am all in favour for revealing these judging scores too
I like this judging make up under gymnastics. At least it addresses potential conflict of interest, deters federations enforcing agenda by random selection. How many judges does it draw from to make up one panel per group? As this obviously goes into the cost.
Everyone's going to repeat all the same worn-out arguments AGAIN?
Arguments that have nothing to do with the Korean complaint, or its dismissal?
For ANOTHER 100 pages?
^^I know, right.
I will say re: the ISU dismissing this, that I'm not surprised. I do feel that if the USFSA, JSF and a couple of other federations had launched a joint complaint about it, the issue might have gotten more attention and the outcome could possibly be different b/c the complaint would have been coming from all sides instead of just from one tiny section. Unfortunately, it does look like the KSF is complaining b/c Yu-Na didn't win and, in that context, the ISU has no reason to entertain them. The KSF is a tiny federation without much pull. With Yu-Na gone they have no top tier level skaters so being out on the outs with them (KSF) really won't hurt the ISU in any way. Thus they can brush this to the side and ignore it. Sad but true.
I do think releasing the scores would be a good move but it's not like one judge or two judges scored Adelina high and everyone else didn't; the majority of the judges scored her in the same range so I don't exactly know what would come of it.
I doubt that revealing the individual judges' scores from Sochi would clear any conspiracy theories as the last time I checked the scores were similar across the panel.
1) I don't mind if one of the nine judges on the panel is from the skater's country because if the judge is out of line in the scoring the scores will be thrown out. The tech panel is a bit different, because they have a lot of power and there are fewer members. The ISU tries to address that by preventing panel members from the countries with the top ranked skaters being there, so clearly the ISU sees that there would be some advantage if a top skater had a countryman/woman on the tech panel. I'm not sure what the solution is there.
2) I prefer seeing the same panel judge the entire competition, personally. I would hate to see the results affected by a skater being unlucky to have a few very tough judges on her panel and a close competitor have a different set of judges who aren't as harsh.
3) This must happen. I guess the ISU made anonymous judging to prevent judges from having to be pressured to score athletes a certain way as part of deals with other nations, as well as for people not to focus as much on the composition of the judging panel. However, if a judge doesn't score how he/she is supposed to as part of a deal with another country, then the other federation might get mad and not offer to make another deal, which would be a good thing.
Actually, it is impossible to prove that, since you don' t know which scores go together. You can only prove it if every score of Adelina's is higher than every score of YuNa's. and even then you have the question of whether the tech panel's calls were correct or not.
If you look at GOE and PCS, which are the scores judges give, YuNa is ahead on more than one judge's scorecard. It is her base value that defeated her, and that is partially due to the tech panel and partially to her own choice of elements.
Adelina's base value was 61.43, YuNa's 57.49. 0.9 of that difference is due to YuNa being awarded level3 for her step sequence and her layback spin.
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