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    Information required on Dorothy Goos Holiday on Ice skater

    In the late fifties, when I was a little boy, I saw an ice extravaganza in Port Elizabeth (now the Nelson Mandela Metropole) in South Africa, and was enchanted by its star. The name of the show was (I think) Holiday on Ice, and the American skater, Dorothy Goose. I remember being devastated when she subsequently died in an aeroplane crash. Circumstances have conspired to bring her to mind recently, but when I Google, her name doesn't come up. Does anybody have information about her? Or possibly pictures? I should very much like to revisit this childhood experience.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabena_Flight_548
    The most likely plane crash for a U.S. skater to die in would be the catastrophic 1961 flight that wiped out the US team and their coaches and families.
    I can't find a name that looks like Dorothy Goose on the list.

    Are you sure it wasn't the gas leak explosion at Holiday on Ice that killed Dorothy Goose, and not an air crash?

    Holiday On Ice has often used less famous skaters. Wikipedia has a list of the shows HOI did. If you can identify the general theme of the show, you could then look for a program from the show, which would surely have a picture of her.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holiday_on_ice
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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabena_Flight_548
    The most likely plane crash for a U.S. skater to die in would be the catastrophic 1961 flight that wiped out the US team and their coaches and families.
    I can't find a name that looks like Dorothy Goose on the list.

    Are you sure it wasn't the gas leak explosion at Holiday on Ice that killed Dorothy Goose, and not an air crash?

    Holiday On Ice has often used less famous skaters. Wikipedia has a list of the shows HOI did. If you can identify the general theme of the show, you could then look for a program from the show, which would surely have a picture of her.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holiday_on_ice
    Many thanks for your response. I was a boy of four or five at the time, and don't have very much memory to go on, beyond the fact that there was a sequence in which skaters wore panniered skirts and pompadours in pastel shades of green, pink and blue, which outraged my infantine sense of propriety (I think even blue rinses were a rarity then, or certainly didn't figure much in my world!). I do, however, remember Dorothy Goose as a figure of brilliance and enchantment. She definitely died in a plane crash, because I recall seeing the headline in the local newspaper.

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    Here are some photos that may jog your memory

    http://www.icestagearchive.com/hoiintl.html

    And two movies from the era

    Holiday on Ice 1956

    and a documentary about a lot of old shows.

    http://fabulousiceage.com/stars-of-the-show/

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    This thread makes me realize how many skaters that we no longer think about played a part in attracting fans to skating. It's worth remembering that it's not just the big stars who are ambassadors of the sport.

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    This is very Proustian. Nothing brings more joy than to revisit an old, pleasurable memory.

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    I googled and got "Dorothy goos" married to Murray Galbraith. Stars of holiday on ice.

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    Thanks, gmyers.

    Here is a brief history of Holiday on Ice. Dorothy Goos is mentioned. (I see that Tom Collins, who later produced Champions on Ice, was in the cast along with Goos.)

    http://www.icestagearchive.com/holidayonice.html

    Here she is with Elvis Presley, backstage at a Holidays on Ice show.

    http://www.pinterest.com/pin/146578162845397837/

    For $9.95 you can buy a program of the 1958 show, starring Dorothy Goos and others.

    http://www.icesk8.com/collect/progrm01.htm

    Here is a newspaper article which mentions the show in South Africa in 1957.

    http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...g=7400,2602246

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    Thanks, gmyers.

    Here is a brief history of Holiday on Ice. Dorothy Goos is mentioned. (I see that Tom Collins, who later produced Champions on Ice, was in the cast along with Goos.)

    http://www.icestagearchive.com/holidayonice.html

    Here she is with Elvis Presley, backstage at a Holidays on Ice show.

    http://www.pinterest.com/pin/146578162845397837/

    For $9.95 you can buy a program of the 1958 show, starring Dorothy Goos and others.

    http://www.icesk8.com/collect/progrm01.htm

    Here is a newspaper article which mentions the show in South Africa in 1957.

    http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...g=7400,2602246
    Wow Mathman... can you help me find the things that have eluded me too?

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    I hope RSE is a happy man! There are still things (not skating-related) from my childhood that I'm searching. To be able to find pleasant things from the past is sweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPack View Post
    I hope RSE is a happy man! There are still things (not skating-related) from my childhood that I'm searching. To be able to find pleasant things from the past is sweet.
    My heartfelt thanks for all of these generous and informative responses. Clearly I need to hone my Googling skills, though I would have expected the site to overlook my misspelling and offer helpful approximations instead. I'm glad, at any rate, to have had my errant E corrected, since it invested poor Dorothy Goos with a damaging air of silliness--Dotty Goose! Goos looks like Dutch surname to me (perhaps she had ancestors that stretched back to New Amsterdam), and Goossen (presumably the plural) is a common Afrikaans surname in South Africa. I'm not sure what 'goos' means, The Afrikaans for goose is 'gans', pronounced with a velar trill for the R and a vowl that rhymes with 'once'.

    When I saw Holiday on Ice in 1957, it was mounted at a beachfront tennis stadium, and we saw the show under the stars (I had had my bath and was clad in my dressing gown, feeling somewhat self-conscious, and also, since we were right alongside the rink, a little chilly!). Looking back on the event a few weeks ago, I wondered how on earth they prevented the ice from melting in the blazing South African sun, but I see that the show had encountered even more trying conditions in South America.

    I was very taken with the photo of DG and Elvis Presley, which projected a wholesome, pleasant personality. Some of this was masked by the glittery, fairy aura that, in my five-year-old consciousness, seemed to emanate from her on the ice. She remained my idol until I saw Margot Fonteyn in a film of Swan Lake, Act II, The Firebird and Ondine at the age of nine, at which point, with all the fickleness of youth, I transferred my devotion.

    Thank you SO much to everybody once again.

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    Google is our friend. A little snooping on the name Goos, the original meaning does indeed seem to be "a keeper of geese." Goosen or Goosens means "son of Goos." Goos is still a first name for boys in the Netherlands. The word comes from Old English gos (goose), related linguistically to Germanic gans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    Google is our friend. A little snooping on the name Goos, the original meaning does indeed seem to be "a keeper of geese." Goosen or Goosens means "son of Goos." Goos is still a first name for boys in the Netherlands. The word comes from Old English gos (goose), related linguistically to Germanic gans.
    Many thanks, Mathman. Far from being my friend, Google seems to adopt a stance of armed neutrality toward me. I frequently draw blanks there where most of my friends return from their sallies with whole cornucopias of information in hand. I am interested to see that Goosen means son of a goose, (goos se seun) and isn't the Germanic plural I thought it was. The fact that the surname of the Australian composer/conductor Eugene Goossens came in a plural form should have alerted me to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RSE View Post
    Many thanks, Mathman. Far from being my friend, Google seems to adopt a stance of armed neutrality toward me. I frequently draw blanks there where most of my friends return from their sallies with whole cornucopias of information in hand. I am interested to see that Goosen means son of a goose, (goos se seun) and isn't the Germanic plural I thought it was. The fact that the surname of the Australian composer/conductor Eugene Goossens came in a plural form should have alerted me to this.

    I also consider Google a friend, albeit a fickle one. A search for "dorothy goos skater" turned up another link to this item from a Wilmington, Delaware newspaper about a competition where Dorothy Goos won the ladies' title in the Eastern States Figure Skating Championships in the early 1940s.

    http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...g=4365,6007078

    Another link revealed that she won the US senior pairs title in 1943 with Edward LeMaire, who died in the tragic 1961 crash referenced upthread.

    Now for the fickle part. The same search also gives links to many pictures of Dorothy Goos, including the one w/ Elvis. The "images" link also kindly offered to take me to "dorothy good skater" as opposed to "dorothy goos skater." I'm a gullible & curious sort, so I took the bait. And what should pop up but a raft of photos of Dorothy Hamill?

    Thanks, Google. Dorothy Hamill was/is indeed a good skater.

    More to the point, thanks to RSE for prompting a search into skating history!
    Last edited by skatedreamer; 03-23-2014 at 10:21 AM. Reason: offering more info in case someone hasn't already found it -- I'm slow on the uptake at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skatedreamer View Post
    I also consider Google a friend, albeit a fickle one. A search for "dorothy goos skater" turned up another link to this item from a Wilmington, Delaware newspaper about a competition where Dorothy Goos won the ladies' title in the Eastern States Figure Skating Championships in the early 1940s.

    http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...g=4365,6007078

    Another link revealed that she won the US senior pairs title in 1943 with Edward LeMaire, who died in the tragic 1961 crash referenced upthread.

    Now for the fickle part. The same search also gives links to many pictures of Dorothy Goos, including the one w/ Elvis. The "images" link also kindly offered to take me to "dorothy good skater" as opposed to "dorothy goos skater." I'm a gullible & curious sort, so I took the bait. And what should pop up but a raft of photos of Dorothy Hamill?

    Thanks, Google. Dorothy Hamill was/is indeed a good skater.

    More to the point, thanks to RSE for prompting a search into skating history!
    Thanks for the additional link, Skatedreamer. I have so far found out nothing further about DG’s death. Was it indeed caused by the 1961 crash that Doris Pulaski referred to in her opening response? Perhaps she was listed among the casualties as Mrs Murray Galbraith. And did her husband perish too? I have Googled for him, but come up with very little. The Historical Dictionary of Figure Skating (James Hines) mentions him en passant in an entry about his more celebrated brother, Sheldon. If both parents died, then Murray junior would probably have been brought up by the German grandparents Goos, who emigrated to New York State in 1922.

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