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Someone with such great skating skills wouldnt struggle to even mantain balance in a complicated twizzle sequence 60% of the time.
What's the article saying on this regard?
I guess my thing is that I would like to see Elena give a few guys a try before quickly finding someone else. I always thought she'd be fab with Tkachenko although maybe he's to old. Or Bukin.
sky_fly20 said:Ruslan's look is too much like a high schooler too, high school musical cutie but not Elena's sensual beauty type, Ruslan may need to grow some beard but can't see that happening, Bukin already has on ice aura as Elena, has power and they have skated before together as juniors for a brief period.
pamela said:Thats true. Maybe I/Z's tryout results are not successful and maybe the fed will encourage a tryout with Bukin... Too many maybes.
But it could happen, I see S/K's tryout being more successful than I/Z's and it will result in keeping the first, splitting the second and find new partners for them...
Someone with such great skating skills wouldnt struggle to even mantain balance in a complicated twizzle sequence 60% of the time.
Ruslan is build like a school boy skating with an older attractive girl who will overshadow him in the background at the least with technique they can hide that a bit, Ruslan is a mismatched anyways for Ilinykh so its not a long term partnership still waiting for Ivan Bukin to announce his split with Stepanova because she has continuously been growing since last fall as their coaches have mentioned, there is still a few more months left before the season start, so a split can still happen, this will be very beneficial for Bukin-Ilinykh partnership
I think Elena and Ruslan (or whomever Elena ends up with) will come out on top, in this situation. While there could be some debate about whether Elena or Nikita are better in practice depending on who you talk to, Elena is a better skater in the individual sense, and she also works well in a pair with her consistency. If you look at skating skills from a consistency standpoint, she would be the stronger of the former(?) I/K pair. No matter whether your discipline is theatre, dancing, ice skating, indoor drumline, music, or anything else involving performances which are judged, it doesn't matter whether you can put on the best show in the world if you can't do it on a consistent basis. Yes, Nikita can be a skilled skater, but he needs to work on being consistent in his performances if he wants to reach his full potential. Elena is already fairly consistent. You can go a lot further with consistency and determination than just raw talent. That's why Elena and Ruslan have a better chance to succeed coming out of this than Victoria and Nikita. That's just my opinion, though, take it or leave it.
Nikita has been much more consistent with the twizzles this season worlds aside. She messed up the twizzles at Euro. And they got better partially because the two of them by all accounts were practicing more. If the rumors are true that he was the one who wanted to practice more. Than he may very well do better than her with a partner who is willing to put more hours in the rink. If your partner needs more work on the twizzles and your not willing to put in that work, than you are a big part of the problem.
Its hard to know whose at fault, but there were a lot of work ethic issues around Elena and Nikita which would explain their inconsistency. If the problem was one more than the other, than the harder worker may end being the one who comes on top.
I love both and hope both do well.
As to being build like high school boy or girl - it reminds me of Charlie White, young Gwendal Peizerat, but also young Dubreil, and Meryl until today - did it stop them in front of dancing and showing mature and top level programs? Certainly not looking at Olympic and World results.
During the Worlds there were quite a few posters saying how good-looking Andrew Poje is. I actually don't think Poje has been able to use his looks until recently because he hasn't really had a lot of personality. Poje is a nice guy, but he's kind of soft spoken and low key. He tended to get overshadowed by Moir & White (and other dancers). I think Poje has begun to emerge a little bit more with confidence after recent improved results. He's still not as fiery or outgoing as Kaitlyn Weaver, but he has improved his presence.
So no Lena may have her faults but I sense that Nikita comes with his own set of issues.
Absolutely. To be honest, whatever it was that triggered this split, the underlying issue sounds like they were for a long time perhaps still too immature to really work as a team, and deal together with all the expectations and pressures that comes with being at the top of the international field. Even if they did manage to get things together this season, the damage was already done, and the question now is how they can meet the new challenges that they will be presented with.
Zhulin said years ago when he trained them that the problem with Lena was that you had to be strict with her to make her work, her attention would wander or she wouldn't want to practice certain things, but in a way that was easier to deal with if you have a coach that can instill discipline. The issue with Nikita is that you have to coddle him a bit more, he always has to feel he's the strongest partner & is leading the team, and he can be very critical, both of himself & of everyone around him. And I guess when he's the one making the big mistakes, as he has been this season - botching the twizzles at NHK & the key points they didn't get there or at Nationals were on the man's steps, catching Elena's skate causing the fall at Russian nationals, twizzles at Worlds, (and even Euros, yes Elena fell but he was all over the place on the first two sets & he said later that had probably unsettled her) - if he still has that kind of attitude of needing to feel he's the best, it could make things very difficult in their partnership.
Skyfly has already started a fan thread for Katsalapov and "Beautiful Blonde Sinitsina" who is "more attractive than Ilinykh". No thread yet for the non-blonde and the schoolboy, though.Soon we should start two different cheer threads one for each new pair
Skyfly has already started a fan thread for Katsalapov and "Beautiful Blonde Sinitsina" who is "more attractive than Ilinykh". No thread yet for the non-blonde and the schoolboy, though.