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Thread: Elena Ilinykh & Nikita Katsalapov Split

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    Quote Originally Posted by bramweld View Post
    Okay on a more positive note Lena's fan group on vk.com is asking for ideas for both short and free dances for I/Z. Any ideas? I like for their FD Out of Tears - Rolling Stones. G&G did a sweet exhibition to it some time back. What do you think?
    Im pretty sure this goes on their fan fest thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by pamela View Post
    Im pretty sure this goes on their fan fest thread
    Got it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by elif View Post
    What she is saying? From google translate, she sounds like skyfly She said something with Victoria and her blue eyes but I'm not sure
    She told that Victoria's eyes are like two lakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elif View Post
    Kustarova tends to overdo this difficult steps and holds little bit. If she do that again and choice dramatic music again, they are going to look slow and old. I know you like Bobrova/Soloviev at 2012 and 2014 but those programs didn't got them anywhere. Just like difficult holds/steps/moves didn't give world title to Weaver/Poje. I'm happy Kustarova is getting help from another choreographer. We know Zoueva and Sphillband use some jumps,hops or lifts to give skaters speed and breathing moments. Kustarova should do that too.
    Yes, Kustarova always had a very difficult and demanding choreography, sometimes even overdo…so only technically best couples could skate it.
    With Bobrova & Soloviev programs – 2014 was done by Zhulin, 2012 – I was not a fan of those programs because the music was not fully interpreted for whole season. I liked B&S‘s performances at 2012 World Champs despite Katya’s fall – because this was the only competition where kids interpretation started to match music on good level…but of course Katya’s posture, costumes etc. I liked Sailors program, Chess program. Last FD was great. And I think that Birds were great idea, but music‘s change finally played against kids and the program never went into full potencial of what it had to be plus it was sooo difficult technically into so fast music.

    Weaver & Poje‘s FD was quite difficult this season, their SD was rather simply….as to most simple programs this season – it was for C&L and I&K, other top couples had difficult choreography for their programs. But this is judges‘ fault – simple programs should be punished in Transitions and Choreography, and it also effects Skating Skills when a couple does almost nothing in between the elements part – but judges completely forgets about it.

    I think that Kustarova is great choreographer who needs to make her ideas more simple sometimes. But she is very capable of different music choices. Bobrova & Soloviev’s programs since 2006/07 were different each year and she matched with variety in music very well. As I know she also choreographed 2012/13 for S&Z - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AigrPOJ3ZzM , which was so fresh and funny and far to B&S’s programs.

    But choreography for I&Z will be made by somebody else as we know. And it is nothing new. Victoria and Ruslan had different choreographers, not only Kustarova – Phantom of the Opera was done by Tatiana Druchinina, last two free dances were choreographed by Ilia Averbukh. So I guess that it may be Averbukh who will make a new choreo for Lena & Ruslan. And as I remember Averbukh was great in Flamenco program in 2001/02 season.

    As to jumps and hops – I am 100% against it and I will never change it – this is not connected with skating skills or ice dance anyway. I would give jump and hops limit for each program and it would be pretty low number of allowed jumps and hops. If you are not strong enought to gain speed with proper work of edges and great knee work, then you have no change to become a great ice dancers. With jumps and hops – it forgives poorer technicians their poorer technique and allows them to take higher places then they deserve in reality.

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    I will say that the Kustarova girls' posture has improved. Yanovskaya and Sinitsina were a mess until this year but are a little more upright now.

    As for the article, Marina says they look like they have been skating together for a long time. I think we'll soon hear that Marina will be their coach and they will get the funding for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraxis12345 View Post
    I will say that the Kustarova girls' posture has improved. Yanovskaya and Sinitsina were a mess until this year but are a little more upright now.

    As for the article, Marina says they look like they have been skating together for a long time. I think we'll soon hear that Marina will be their coach and they will get the funding for it.
    Good. It is time for this kerfuffle to be over!! Go Izzie!! I mean I/Z

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    It seems Alexeeva should actually be more to blame for the posture. Here is a 14 year old Kustarova with Sergei Romashkin.

    http://youtu.be/DBHJ6Z_NFhM

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    Sometimes as it relates to posture there is only so much coaches can do. But good to see that Kustarova's girls are getting better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sisinka View Post
    As to jumps and hops – I am 100% against it and I will never change it – this is not connected with skating skills or ice dance anyway. I would give jump and hops limit for each program and it would be pretty low number of allowed jumps and hops. If you are not strong enought to gain speed with proper work of edges and great knee work, then you have no change to become a great ice dancers. With jumps and hops – it forgives poorer technicians their poorer technique and allows them to take higher places then they deserve in reality.
    I know they can get speed with edges and knee action but its not going to hurt them If they get more speed with hops and jumps.

    By the way I didn't see any mention to extra features for steps in new ice dance rules. I find this interesting. Last year 2 extra features were allowed and almost all team were doing dance jumps and toe steps. This year I didn't see any mention at all. I'm still waiting for official ISU Additional Q&As but If they are not allowing them, its going to be a bloodbath for ice dancers.

    Quote Originally Posted by sisinka View Post
    She told that Victoria's eyes are like two lakes.
    Another thing for skyfly to write every post. Blonde and blue eyes like lakes

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    that put a nail in teh coffin for I/Z, no way now they can compete with S/Z
    they won in the looks now seems Marina approves and they are doing good technically

    a well matched pair indeed
    I dont think we have seen 2 beautiful well matched couple in Ice Dance in beauty alone for a long time now

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    from Zueva's words, this confirms Victoria Sinitsina is now the prettiest Ice Dancer in Russia
    Elena Ilinykh will probably be intimidated once they face off in the ice, we shall see next season hopefully both teams face off

    for now S/K won

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    from Zueva's words, this confirms Victoria Sinitsina is now the prettiest Ice Dancer in Russia
    Elena Ilinykh will probably be intimidated once they face off in the ice, we shall see next season hopefully both teams face off

    for now S/K won
    Umm when did FS turned into 'how pretty a person is' rather than the actual skating skills?!
    We will see two new great couples but you can not say S/K won. Time will tell what they can do.
    For now I/Z all the way!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    from Zueva's words, this confirms Victoria Sinitsina is now the prettiest Ice Dancer in Russia
    Elena Ilinykh will probably be intimidated once they face off in the ice, we shall see next season hopefully both teams face off

    for now S/K won
    Marina has said Meryl's appeal is that she looks like 'a storybook princess.' I'd take princess over having lake-eyes any day

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    Quote Originally Posted by fleeting View Post
    Marina has said Meryl's appeal is that she looks like 'a storybook princess.' I'd take princess over having lake-eyes any day
    Meryl Davis is pretty too, she is a Disney type princes
    Elena and Victoria are bombshell beauties but between the two, Sinitina is prettier than Ilinykh

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    Meryl Davis is pretty too, she is a Disney type princes
    Elena and Victoria are bombshell beauties but between the two, Sinitina is prettier than Ilinykh
    sorry if it sounds insult, Vic is pretty but not memorable to me. I mean when I look at someone like Vic, I feel like: "Ok, pretty girl, but why do I feel like I have seen tons of faces like this before? Huh?"

    I have already forgot her face. She doesn't have the aura that make people want to remember. Call that the diva aura or the attitude I don't know, but apparently I never care about ice dance before. After Sochi the only faces of ice dancers that are memorable to me are: Tessa, Meryl and Lena. All of them have dark hair.

    Yes I know this sounds not right, but it's the 1st thing that comes to my mind when I see Vic picture: Just a pretty blondie but not special enough for me to remember.

    And frankly, if you show me a dozen of pictures of blondie models and Vic's pictures is in it, I would find it extremely difficult to remember who is who. They all look the same, this might sound uncomfortable to some people here. But it's true that, to me, lots of blondie look the same.

    And science has stated that, most men are more attracted to brunette women than blondie.

    Just my 2 cents. Not that I don't like blondie girl. Gracie and Yulia are very memorable to me. And Wagner, who also happens to be blond.

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