05-12-2014, 11:35 AM
To Ilia Averbukh’s story: I remember memoirs of one of the Ice Dance judges who remembered Annissina & Averbukh together. That person told: “Marina was a fat girl, she was laying on Ilia’s neck and he was pulling her from one corner of the ice surface to another….then they split…then Marina found Peizerat, lost her weight and then she became great“. This gives an idea that Marina in junior years was in a similar situation like young Butyrskaya – Federation and coaches took them like not very perspective. Also in Averbukh’s time it was coaches and Federation who decided who would split. To really believe that it was love which caused that Ilia started to skate with Irina while Marina stayed alone…it would be an interesting fairy tale, but only a fairy tale.
Originally Posted by Alba
And don’t forget that A&A split in juniors years, while in our case we have two senior couples who already adapted at senior stage. First couple had European and Olympic Medals, second couple just made great senior debut finishing fourth and sevenths at European and World Champs.
I know that Averbukh likes to make a romantic hero from himself…I am not suprised with it, because it is more easy than to admit that he and his coaches kicked off a girl who later became an European, World and Olympic Champion and constantly defeated him at competitions.
05-12-2014, 11:49 AM
Are you sure this judge talking about Marina Anissina, not Irina Lobacheva
Originally Posted by sisinka
05-12-2014, 11:54 AM
It is the kiss of death it would appear in Russian Ice Dancing to have a womanly figure and be significantly more vivacious or more intelligent than your partner. My word
Originally Posted by elif
05-12-2014, 06:30 PM
On the Ice
I meant what was going through her mind when she tried out with Katsalapov, which happened before worlds, and as rumor had it, before the beginning of the season. S/Z, as mentioned, were not as sure a bet for medals as I/K. And there was the possibility that they'd get passed over for TAT faves Stepanova and Bukin and their own training mates Yanovskaya and Mozgov, who Simonenko is drooling over. Why spend the rest of your career battling for a 3rd spot when there is a potential #1 spot to be had?
Originally Posted by elif
05-12-2014, 11:16 PM
Hey, if I/K had won the WC public outcry against S/K would have been epic. Nikita couldn't have picked a better day to mess up those twizzles. Talk about perfect timing. Nikita is a shrewd determined man. No matter what your opinion of him this was well played. Curiously no news from Zueva? IMHO, S/K have been endorsed, they most likely will remain in the US till control rentals. But my only question is why is the FED dragging this out so? Is this only for show to appease certain folks?
Originally Posted by Abraxis12345
05-12-2014, 11:27 PM
Actually, it's outrageous enough that they came 4th and that close to winning. That twizzle was a huge mess up. It would be like if Hanyu/Machida completely left his quad out and still won.
Originally Posted by bramweld
That being said, that twizzle will continue to haunt Nikita for the rest of his life, and it's rather silly (unless you're being sarcastic) to make it seem like he deliberately messed them up to avoid criticism in a potential future partnership.
05-13-2014, 05:38 AM
I'm a woman. I can be as contrary as I choose!