Elena Ilinykh & Nikita Katsalapov Split
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I wouldn't call it strange but sad. I think they are an incompatible pair. Lena has said before that they argue; they do not have a common language. She has also said that she cannot address an issue directly with Nikita. I think Lena probably surmises that many couples have their burdens to bear but this would just be theirs, so you bear down and cope the best you can. So I'm not saying she never knew about the possibility of a split but rather hoped that Nikita would choose to stay together for the sake of the product that they're able to put on the ice.
I think the biggest mistake she ever made was to get involved with Nikita. I think she is feeling the repercussions to this day. Hopefully their story will be a lesson to those looking on. I sense that their training environment is very toxic. As Zhulin has mentioned before, Lena is the more fragile emotional one hence her frequent tears. She has been like this even from junior worlds. This should have been a red flag for many looking on. I think the environment she is in led her, even though misguided, to seek comfort with Morozov.
But here are the cold hard facts as I see it. Could it be that yes Nikita has much greater stamina than her though less consistent, he needs to train more than her? So either he has to work alone at times while Elena considered lacking in artistry, needs to work alone more with a choreographer at times and also in the gym? These are fairly reasonable compromises. But if they don't have between them the communication skills to navigate their issues, then really it is in their best interests that they split. But another party (Ruslan) shouldn't be made to pay for the mistakes that they made.
Look again he was struggling TERRIBLY with his twizzles and objectively one could say he threw her off balance. At worlds and at EC, almost anywhere you can see that she has almost complete command over her twizzles. But here you have it they won neither of these competitions and who is or was at fault won't matter in the years to come.
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Well they are dressed like 1920's style glamour so with a black and white filter I bet they looked like they were in an old movie! Not sure if that should be used as the example of turmoil!
That's true, but then again, Nikita is the reason why they lost gold (and any other medal) at worlds! (at least with Elena's mistake they were able to get silver at Europeans, but with Nikita's mistake they were not able to medal at all!)
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It may be as simple as this:
They don't like each other. They don't want to spend almost every day for the next 4 years together.
Frankly, judging only from what I've read about her diva conduct, I wouldn't want to be around her either... a guy's perspective.
They don't like each other. They don't want to spend almost every day for the next 4 years together.
Frankly, judging only from what I've read about her diva conduct, I wouldn't want to be around her either... a guy's perspective.
True. And if the same can be said about his own behaviour, in her eyes, then really why should she continue with him either? A woman's perspective..
She doesn't somehow give off a diva vibe, IMHO. She just seems matter of fact, maybe even aloof very cerebral. I don't sense that she trusts people easily. Her closest friends it would appear are outside of FS. For Nikita I think it is the opposite. Also one of the many reasons I think they are quite incompatible. Zhulin also hinted this about them. They are a very difficult pair to manage. They need a very astute coach or they should not be together.
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But I think Mao continued to work with her. She choreo. the last LP programs and the 2012 SP for Mao?
I read an interview with Tarasova and she said that she advised Mao to find a new coach, or something like that, in Japan because she couldn't follow her full time, because she was very sick and her sister died or something?
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I don't agree with that. They won the free at Worlds (imo they skated better in Sochi), and most probably would've won the title if not for the twizzles in SD.
Add to their total scores the STw (level 3 or 4 makes no difference) points they missed, and you'll have them winners by 3 or 5 points.
I think the judges really didn't like P&B FD so much, and loved I&K.
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It is more complicated than to say yes or no to this.
I/K can split and there is nothing the Rus Fed can do about that. But the Rus Fed exercises almost complete control over who is/can be partnered. So the Rus Fed can ABSOLUTELY be saying to I/K and S/Z right now, you guys split if you want to, but if you split, believe you me we will NOT parter you together, K and S, and we haven't decided if we will place you with anyone at all.
So essentially, the fed can end their skating careers for them if they split, should they choose to do so.
The only way out of this for them would be to leave Russia and find a non Russian coach on their own dime. To say this is probably completely infeasible for them is an understatement.
Nope. IMO one of 3 things is going on:
1. It is a total rumor and either Pechelat lied or else Lena was reacting to hearing the RUMOR, which she hadn't heard as it wasn't true and Nika didn't tell her as it was a rumor. I think the no comments could be consistent with this if Nika was afraid to say anything as he did know nothing and wondered if either the fed was splitting them or Lena was dumping him. It could also be that Nika was just sick of reporters hounding him after he viewed himself as answering their questions and so snapped no comment in annoyance.
I view this as 1/3 chance.
2. Nika did want to split but now is reconsidering given the backlash from the Fed and S's apparent reluctance to ditch her partner (from the interview she gave).
I view this as about 1/2 chance
3. They are going to split and are just waiting for the moment to make their statement.
I view this as low chance at this point.
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Point conceded. He could be an ***.
I think it must be tough to be a dancer or pairs skater. What must it be like to be in a partnership and discover that you just don't like your partner very well? People grow and change over the course of time. I certainly don't have the same friends, the same interests... I'm not the same person... that I was 10 years ago.
Yeah people need to face facts that I/k would've won bronze anywhere and would be world champions right now if they had twizzles in sd.
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Definitely so. The PCS show the judges clearly favored them over the other 3 teams, just as they had at the Olympics. Personally I find I&K overrated, they are better than Bobrova & Soloviev but there is still a definite Russian boost to their scores.
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Skaters need to stop getting into personal relationships with Sleazezov.
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lol you can suck it the hell up like grishuk and platov
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Yeah. That's a huge mistake really. I don't know, I always had this rule in my life. Never get involved with someone you work, and never had one. It's trouble, most of the times.
True.
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Oh, I get that partnerships have been successful without the members liking each other... I just said it would be hard. And I still think it would be.
I wonder if G/P ever wanted to split when they were eligible skaters... they certainly wasted no time once they hit the pro ranks.
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