The translation (really bad!) has a reference to TWIZZLE REVENGE.Sounds like an awesome name for a band.
It's obviously Charlie White's and Zach Donohue's band, duh!
But who is the lead singer? :think:
Elena Ilinykh & Nikita Katsalapov Split
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It's obviously Charlie White's and Zach Donohue's band, duh!
But who is the lead singer? :think:
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Ahaha, but really!
Not my tastes, but she totally rocks it, so go her!! She's such a pretty lady. I hope we get to continue to see her on the ice!
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http://www.team-russia2014.ru/article/16712.html
…interview from 3th of April with Alexeeva, one of Sinitsina & Zhiganshin’s coaches
…she says that she is satisfied with a whole season and World Championships, after the Olympics kids were training hard and in good mood, there were no special requests for World Champs, they wanted to improve their speed and technique – and kids did it.
..she says that this couple has a great potential, they need time and they need to continue in hard trainings like they did so far.
…she also says that she knows nothing about a situation that Victoria could skate with Nikita. Victoria and Ruslan worked very well, now they will take some rest, then examinations, some shows, later a preparation for next season. No changes are planned. They are talking to different specialists who they plan to work with.
The situation with I&K looks like the biggest secret on the world.
Everybody can understand that both couples didn’t want to destroy their concentration before and during competition. But free dance finished on Saturday and now we have Thursday.
Victoria immediately after free dance told that she knew nothing about splitting with Ruslan. And now one of their coaches told the press that there is no Victoria and Ruslan‘s split.
But I&K? They are still silent. Why? In this situation (especially while S&Z and their coach already denied their eventual split) it leads to say that I&K really want to split. Until this time Nikita, Lena, Gorshkov, Piseev, Shekhovtsova didn’t deny it. Morozov said once that he didn’t know anything about it, but then Zueva told the press that Nikolai told her about splitting – what to choose then?
http://news.sportbox.ru/Vidy_sporta...ossiyskie-figuristi-vernulisi-s-CHM-v-YAponii
…shot from an airport when Russian skaters came back home. The journalist noticed that Lena and Nikita went from the airport separately, Nikita says that it is not unusual for them (not really - they were hand in hand while coming back from Europeans), he says that they said goodbye to each other and while Lena came to her mother, he – Nikita was going back to Novogorsk.
Well, with this shot from airport, Nikita was on screen, he had a great chance to deny split info and he didn’t do that. Also we all know that split info travelled across the board, so probably also Lena’s mom heard about it. So, if it was a rumour only…it would be a great chance for Nikita to go to Lena’s mom and told her that it was a nonsense, no? He didn’t do that, instead of it he run to Novogorsk. Strange?
If Alexander Gorshkov was speaking true and the Russian Federation knew nothing about a split and they got no official letter with a split request…so I suppose that immediately on Tuesday both Lena and Nikita came to Federation and discussed the situation. And once again, if it was a rumour only, then immediately after that discussion somebody from Federation would tell the media about false rumour. It didn’t happen.
So I guess that Lena and Nikita or Nikita himself really want to split. And those days…
1) Russian Federation tries to persuade them to stay together
2) Russian Federation tries to find a new partners for them
3) Russian Federation send them on holidays for one week to think about all of this and come back with final decision
Why Victoria was invited into that rumour/true story….I guess that Morozov loves beautiful girls plus from all Russian ladies Victoria is the most close to Nikita’s technique, so talking to Zueva he pointed her (which was probably more his wish than a reality). I also tend to believe a tryout of Victoria with Nikita, but I think that she was not the only one…it is usual that if a partner looks for a new lady, then there are always more possibilities taken into account…so I think that Victoria tried and Nikita said OK, we will see and that is how it ended…and maybe Nikita also tried with Riazanova, Monko, Yanovskaya, Stepanova and some others…
Alexeeva told a journalist Vaitsekhovskya that she is against splitting and she knew about it…I think it could be true that she knew about a tryout…coaches usually know if their skater has some tryout with another partner…and I also believe that Ruslan didn’t know about it, because he noticed that after the Olympics he was ill, so he probably didn’t skate for some days, and probably both Alexeeva and Victoria didn’t see a reason to tell him while it was a tryout without any final decision (which I don’t agree with, he should be told that Nikita wants to try skating with his partner).
I only hope that Russian Federation will be wise enought not to push this couple to split just because Victoria would be suitable for Nikita. Obviously both Victoria and Ruslan as well as their coaches don't want to change anything...
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The Federation has already come out and said they are 100% opposed to breaking these two couples up. So I do not think this is at all something they are pushing for based on that.
So at this point the ONLY thing we know for certain, confirmed, that could be a major factor is Morozov's return to New Jersey to the Ice House as a coach. Based on this, the questions we need to ask are:
- Will Lena & Nika want to move to the US to train with N. Mo (new moniker of the day, use it well!)?
- Are the alleged problems in the pair so irreparable that the only thing to do is to split up?
- If the team produces good results, would they be able to overlook the rumored animosity to want to move halfway across the world away from family and friends and into a new environment? (Although I do remember Lena lived in the US before and that's why she speaks excellent English.)
- If the team does pack up and move, will that exacerbate their motivational problems? Moskvina said that when she moved Elena B and Anton S to the US in 1999, he had problems concentrating due to life in a new country, and they were less than an hour away from Manhattan which didn't help as he would go partying and exploring the city. Is it possible then that if I/K move and stay with N.Mo, that it would negatively affect their training? (In the end Elena and Anton were successful but there was definitely an adjustment period.)
I honestly think the alleged split wouldn't be a knee-jerk or sudden thing, it was simply spurred on by N.Mo's move to the US later this month.
Now we sit and we wait.
- Will Lena & Nika want to move to the US to train with N. Mo (new moniker of the day, use it well!)?
- Are the alleged problems in the pair so irreparable that the only thing to do is to split up?
- If the team produces good results, would they be able to overlook the rumored animosity to want to move halfway across the world away from family and friends and into a new environment? (Although I do remember Lena lived in the US before and that's why she speaks excellent English.)
- If the team does pack up and move, will that exacerbate their motivational problems? Moskvina said that when she moved Elena B and Anton S to the US in 1999, he had problems concentrating due to life in a new country, and they were less than an hour away from Manhattan which didn't help as he would go partying and exploring the city. Is it possible then that if I/K move and stay with N.Mo, that it would negatively affect their training? (In the end Elena and Anton were successful but there was definitely an adjustment period.)
I honestly think the alleged split wouldn't be a knee-jerk or sudden thing, it was simply spurred on by N.Mo's move to the US later this month.
Now we sit and we wait.
R. Kostomarov: 'I agree with G.M. of the [Russian] federation V.Piseev. Lena and Nikita have won gold medal in the team competition and bronze medal in individual competition, they're great pair and ready to win 1st place at the next Olympics. If they're going to split, it'll be really stupid decision'
Source: http://www.aif.ru/dontknows/answer/1136729
Source: http://www.aif.ru/dontknows/answer/1136729
It was told be Piseev only, probably before any meeting of Russian Federation, where he would discussed it with others, so we don't know other people from Federation opinion. But I hope that this time Piseev is talking true. If Lena and Nikita really want to split and nobody can stop them...what to do then, it is their life and their choice who they want to be with...but to loose two top couples with only B&S staying like the only Russian top couple, it would be really stupid...
But we may still hope that Russian Federation will push Lena and Nikita so hard that they will decide to stay together finally. It wouldn't be for the first time. It was told that Tarasova helped a lot in keeping them together (in past times when they wanted to split). So I guess that she is a part of committee who talks to them and who will take final decision.
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I mean honestly though, I don't think the federation has any reason at all to support a split. I/K are their number one team at this point, and have the potential certainly to win World medals and in fact to win Worlds. S/Z at this point are solidly their number 3 team with definite potential to pass B/S next year or the year after, and definite potential next year to possibly win a European medal and some GP medals. To be in favor of breaking up two teams- one already VERY successful and with the potential for greater success, and one with great potential for the coming year to break through on the international scene and within a few years to be vying for World medals themselves, would just be stupid.
There is no guarantee or even indication of ANY kind that S/K would even be as successful as S/Z, and it is extremely unlikely they would ever be as successful as I/K could be (or even are), but certainly they would not be for at elast a few years. Why wait when you have the real deal in front of you?
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Definitely.
Yeah, sounds reasonable. Was he (Nikita) asked in the airport about the split? Directly I mean.
I agree. :thumbsup:
I was hoping Elena Ilinykh/Ivan Bukin.Imagine a partner for Elena, who can actually twizzle.
You're mean.
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I hope I&K think it is Morozov who leaked the story and immediately dump his ***, and get a real coach who isnt a perve like Zhulin and maybe Vassiliev that he just wants to sleep with every pretty female he coaches. Atleast Zhulin and Vassiliev know a heck of alot about skating and the technical aspects of their disciplines, which cant be said for Morozov who only has a career in the sport just because he had his *** dragged to a top 20 finish at the Olympics by the exceptional Tatiana Navka who even dragged Roman Kostomarov, he not even a particularly talented at the top level dancer, to an Olympic Gold.
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Well, not to defend the pig but you don't have to be such a good skater in order to become a good coach or coreo.though.
Anyway, I don't know about Zhulin. They been with him and left, and although I liked him very much with Usova I didn't like the work he has done with B&S.
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True. However Morozov was even a much better skater than he is a coach probably. He is a somewhat effective choregrapher (with coming up with choreography that pleases the judges anyway, even if I find many of them vile programs) so I will give him that much, but it isnt worth becoming the next in the line of his "conquests".
I need to hear more about how pervy Zhulin and Vassiliev allegedly are!
I did hear Max once say after he dumped Mukhortova that apparently she and Oleg went on holiday together and he was left alone to train solo. Am I recalling that correctly?
I do remember Navka, what a brilliant dancer. She always outshone Roman. And for what it's worth, their 2006 Carmen is the only one besides Witt's 1988 OG and V/M 2013 that I enjoy re-watching.
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Absolutely not.
I have a question about this though.
Are we sure that she was having an affair with Morozov, still during the Euros and Olympics? I'm asking because I'm not sure about this.
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Zhulin at one point was married to Maya Usova, cheating on her with his Gritschuk who he made to believe was in a commited relationship with him although secret from Maya and all but his closest friends (she even said in an interview back in 2006 describing it all she quit skating in the summer of 92 for awhile upon his request, and promised to eventually marry her), and then was cheating on his so called girlfriend Oksana Gritschuk (whom he was cheating on his wife Maya with) with his lover and sex buddy Tatjana Navka. Oksana (later Pasha, but then Oksana) dumped him cold when she found out he was "cheating" on her with Tatjana, and hence she got back together with Platov as a team, and of course Maya also found out about Oksana (dont know if she ever knew about Tatjana as well) and eventually got divorced from Zhulin. His horndog ways also cost his longtime coach Natalia Dubova who lost both Gritschuk (who she kicked out in rage) and Navka (who she sent away to train for an off season which led to declining results with Samuel G. and their breakup) who would both go on to win the Olympic gold medals. He and Nakva were also later married (while he coached she and Roman K. to Olympic and world titles) and divorced, but I have no idea what the divorce was based upon so in the sake of fairness I wont assume the obvious likelihood.
As for Vasiliev he was in a relationship with Tatiana Totmianina when he was coaching Totmianina & Marinin, and they were later married and divorced. He was then in a serious relationship with Maria Mukhortova while coaching Mukhortova & Trankov, which partly led to the breakup of the pair. While nothing was ever confirmed there was also a rumor he was having a sex buddy relationship with Nicole Della Monica for awhile, while he was already coaching Della Monica & Guarise (dont know why he wouldnt have slept with Guarise instead, surely even a full blooded heterosexual would rather sleep with him than Nicole if you absolutely must sleep with your main coaching project, lol).
As for Vasiliev he was in a relationship with Tatiana Totmianina when he was coaching Totmianina & Marinin, and they were later married and divorced. He was then in a serious relationship with Maria Mukhortova while coaching Mukhortova & Trankov, which partly led to the breakup of the pair. While nothing was ever confirmed there was also a rumor he was having a sex buddy relationship with Nicole Della Monica for awhile, while he was already coaching Della Monica & Guarise (dont know why he wouldnt have slept with Guarise instead, surely even a full blooded heterosexual would rather sleep with him than Nicole if you absolutely must sleep with your main coaching project, lol).
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