Should Mao have attempted the 3-3 in the short?

CarneAsada · Mar 27, 2014

She's been in maybe the top jumping condition of her life since the start of Sochi practices. She's definitely been in the best mental state of her life since the Sochi LP. Her 3-3 in practice looked even better than in Sochi. As things stand she is in the lead with a new WR after doing 3A, 3-2, and 3F, but Carolina Kostner is just about 1.4 points behind her thanks to her 3-3 and her Yuna Kim Nationals-level PCS. The WR is nice, but Mao could have broken 80 with a 3A and a 3-3. And being the first to do 4 triples in the SP means a lot more than having a WR by 0.16 points (to me at least, though some bean-counter fans might disagree and claim that having the top numerical scores matters more than what you actually do on the ice). Should she have attempted it?

YesWay · Mar 27, 2014

Personally I think not... a bit risky at this point... and "If it aint broke, don't fix it!"

But she should totally NOT retire... keep up these confidence building performances... and go for a 4-triple SP next season! :-D

PS. I do agree that a world "first" is better than a WR score, because being the first to do something is everlasting (whereas WR's will be broken). And I note that Mao has a LOT of "world's first" records already...!

Iscariot · Mar 27, 2014

She only need Carolina's components to get 80 sadly i dont see that happening even in the free

hyperinflation · Mar 27, 2014

she just broke a world record in the sp so i'm gonna go with no..

CarneAsada · Mar 27, 2014

hyperinflation said:
she just broke a world record in the sp so i'm gonna go with no..

Perhaps it's better this way. She can break one WR today and then if she continues she can do a 4 triple SP and break the record again!

MaiKatze · Mar 27, 2014

That would have been great wo watch, but I also go with No. I think going clean and landing the triple axel is the most important thing. For her mental state it certainly seems to be. Yes, Carolina is close but that was mainly due to higher PCS. If she repeats Sochi LP (which will be VERY hard to do) with 3-3 I see no need to do it in the short.

It may be selfish but as Mao is only 23 and getting better, seeing that kind of short program with 3A and 3-3 combi next season would be awesome for the fans and it seems possible right now.

drivingmissdaisy · Mar 27, 2014

I think she'd have to train the different layout, because she would likely do a 3F-3Lo and so her solo jump would have to be different. Another reason for her to stay longer and try to break 8o next season. :yes:

sk8in · Mar 27, 2014

If she's smart she'll focus on adding doubles to her tiples in the bonus section of her long.

JayW · Mar 27, 2014

It is Mao, we never know.
It is all about her mentality of the moment right after her 3A. If she succeeds the 3A, she may as well just pull the trigger of 3F-3L and the rest for sure will be fantabulous. She could have a gargantuan score.

TryMeLater · Mar 28, 2014

I think she should go for the 3L-3T.
It's easier than the 3F-3L, and her loops are gorgeous.

pangtongfan · Mar 28, 2014

I think her main focus was on doing a great and clean SP to set herself up in position to win. Especialy after her SP performance in Sochi cost her an Olympic gold medal. Adding a 2nd huge risk along with the 3 axel to worry about, was just something she didnt want to do, and understandably so.

pangtongfan · Mar 28, 2014

Seeing how Mao and Carolina looked today I hope their recent suggestions of continuing are true. I would love nothing more than to see both those incredible women skate another 4 years, especialy with Yu Na retired and the womens field already losing her. Those russian wonderbabies, other than Radianova who I like, are about as much fun to watch as paint peeling.

gmyers · Mar 28, 2014

Yes absolutely because kostner will probably win now because of better tech and pcs for free skates

Blades of Passion · Mar 28, 2014

gmyers said:
Yes absolutely because kostner will probably win now because of better tech and pcs for free skates

Huh? Kostner's technical content in the LP is significantly lower than Asada's.

sk8in · Mar 28, 2014

Blades of Passion said:
Huh? Kostner's technical content in the LP is significantly lower than Asada's.

What was Kostner's score at the Olympics? One of the things I'm wondering is if Mao's FS score will shoot up, simply for being out of Sochi.

gmyers · Mar 28, 2014

Blades of Passion said:
Huh? Kostner's technical content in the LP is significantly lower than Asada's.

Mao could be ur central

Blades of Passion · Mar 28, 2014

sk8in said:
What was Kostner's score at the Olympics? One of the things I'm wondering is if Mao's FS score will shoot up, simply for being out of Sochi.

Of course Mao's FS score will shoot up (if she delivers). She beat Kostner in the LP at the Olympics even with relatively held-down PCS and two < calls.

MaiKatze · Mar 28, 2014

sk8in said:
What was Kostner's score at the Olympics? One of the things I'm wondering is if Mao's FS score will shoot up, simply for being out of Sochi.

It was within a point of Mao. Mao got 142.71 and Caro 142.61. If you add Mao's record short program score from Worlds and Olympic Free score together, she still wouldn't have beat Adelina. So much for chances at the OGM. Never would've happened.

gmyers · Mar 28, 2014

MaiKatze said:
It was within a point of Mao. Mao got 142.71 and Caro 142.61. If you add Mao's record short program score from Worlds and Olympic Free score together, she still wouldn't have beat Adelina. So much for chances at the OGM. Never would've happened.

She would've gotten final group pcs

pangtongfan · Mar 29, 2014

MaiKatze said:
It was within a point of Mao. Mao got 142.71 and Caro 142.61. If you add Mao's record short program score from Worlds and Olympic Free score together, she still wouldn't have beat Adelina. So much for chances at the OGM. Never would've happened.

Mao's LP score would have been way higher skating in the final flight. It would be pretty much impossible to score below 150 in fact, even by the corrupt Sochi panel. Had Mao done her worlds SP and Olympic LP and didnt win....boy if the Sotbots and Russians think the heat is hot now it would be nothing compared to the fury had that set of events occured. Mind you if she does her Olympic LP at worlds in Japan the score wont be the mere 152ish score it would have been in the final flight in Sochi by the currupt Putin Panel, but more like 160+.

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