Probably more than you needed, but I think it's sufficient evidence to show that your statement that he underrotates it most of the time is not true.
His mastery rate on the 3A is better than most of the guys on quads.
I don't think Jason is above average in jumps, but he is above average as far as being an all-around skater. IF he wasn't then he wouldn't have ended up in the final group at the Olympics without a quad.
ETA: Somebody mentioned Hanyu's quad salchow. I love the kid to pieces, but if you want to talk about someone who is inconsistent on a jump. That's the perfect example:
Skate Canada: : -3.00 (fall)
Trophee Eric Bompard: -.23 (1S pop)
Grand Prix Final: -3.00 (fall)
Olympics: -3.00 (fall)
Worlds: 0.00 (but ratified).
He is 5/6 for ratification, but fell on half of those attempts and is only 1/6 in + GOE (16 percent).
Does this mean his a subpar jumper? Of course not, his other jumps are solid and get good GOE! So I find it sort of crazy that people consider Jason a terrible jumper because he isn't 100 percent on the 3A. It's just one jump out of many.
As I said, I don't think Jason is the BEST jumper -- his GOE shows that and I'd rank him behind pretty much most of the top skaters at the Olympics. But he does enough in the jumps and makes up for it elsewhere to score well overall.
Jason's personal best in TES is 81+. Had he been at Worlds and turned in his personal best TES, he only would have been behind Hanyu, Fernandez and Machida in TES.
Junior Worlds 2013
SP: 3A +0.86
FS: 3A-2T +0.14; 3A +1.00
SP: 3A + 0.86
FS: 3A+3T +0.57; 3A<< -1.50
SP: 3A +1.14
FS: 3A<< -1.50 (fall); 3A-1T -2.14
Trophee Eric Bompard
SP: 3A +1.14
FS: 3A-2T -0.14; 1A
SP: 3A +0.29
FS: 3A-3T +1.43; 3A< -1.00
Olympics (Team Event)
FS: 3A-3T +0.71; 3A< -0.86
Olympics (Individual Event)
SP: 3A +0.86
FS: 3A-3T< -2.71; 3A< -3.00
Since Jr. Worlds last year he has made 3 triple axel attempts at each competition. Since Junior Worlds, Jason has been 6/6 in getting the 3A with +GOE in the short program.
The problem with his 3A has been with the free skate, and more specifically the second 3A in the program. He is 6/7 with the opening 3A combo (and 4/7 for getting +GOE) but he is only 2/7 for the second 3A attempt (and just 1/7 for positive GOE).
Since Junior Worlds: Jason got the jump ratified (no UR, no pop) 14 out of 20 attempts (70 percent). He only popped the jump once out of 20 (5 percent) and only fell once (1 percent).
He does tend to two-foot the jump when he messes up, as a result his +GOE 3A rate is much lower he got +GOE 10 out of 20 attempts (50 percent).
The biggest hurdle with his 3A is specifically the second 3A in his program. When you take out the second 3A attempt in the FS out of the statistics, his ratification rate is 92 percent and his +GOE rate is 76 percent.
He also messed up that second attempt (turnout) when I watched him practice at Nationals, which tells me it's a mental thing. What also convinces me that it's a mental thing is that there when I watch him practice the jump , I'd say he was about 95 percent (which matches reports from other practices).
Last edited by Mrs. P; 03-31-2014 at 02:25 PM.
As for his TES coming from jumps vs spins: he has to be somewhat good at jumps because even with all level 4 everything, it's not nearly worth as much as his jumps.
At the Olympics, Jason scored 45.39 in TES. He scored 17.23 in spins + steps, which is just 38 percent of the total TES score. The rest came from his three jumping passes (28.16 or 62 percent).
Here's how he ranked relative to the rest of the top 12 (percent of total score):
Yuzuru: 37.46 (68 percent)
Peter: 33.52 (71 percent)
Patrick: 32.10 (63 percent)
Brian: 30.83 (68 percent)
Alexander: 30.71 (67 percent)
Yan: 29.87 (66 percent)
Javier: 28.38 (64 percent)
Jason: 28.16 (62 percent)
Michal: 26.06 (62 percent)
Denis: 25.95 (60 percent)
Tatsuki: 23.94 (58 percent)
Daisuke: 23.92 (57 percent)
This exercise, I think illustrates the importance of being consistent. Had the other guys been more consistent on their quads, Jason would be a whole lot farther down in the standings.
Last edited by Mrs. P; 03-31-2014 at 03:51 PM.