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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianSkaterGuy View Post
    Hopefully! The crowds there love her. Although, the judges will also be harder on her flutz -- which perhaps she can get sorted out next season.

    I'd love for Julia to be the next skater after Mao to win every one of the Grand Prix events.
    If Julia is going to NHK, then Yuzuru HAS to be there so that they skate together as a pair in the gala.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phaeljones View Post
    If Julia is going to NHK, then Yuzuru HAS to be there so that they skate together as a pair in the gala.
    Don't they usually do Finlandia Cup together too every year??

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckm View Post
    Let's not forget that after the last competition of the year is over (this weekend), the ISU will scrub the World Rankings, removing the 2011-2012 data, and the 2012-2013 data will be reduced to 70% of its current value. That could affect the standings of skaters/teams in the top 24 who have scored most of their high points in years prior to the current season but for some reason did not compete or had limited success in the current season.
    Oops....

    Here are the current world standings!! I think Yulia will beat out Sotnikova and if Mao and Caro retire be the overall #1. I didn't break out a calculator though and just eyeballed it.

    http://www.isuresults.com/ws/ws/wsladies.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam-Skwantch View Post
    Oops....

    Here are the current world standings!! I think Yulia will beat out Sotnikova and if Mao and Caro retire be the overall #1. I didn't break out a calculator though and just eyeballed it.

    http://www.isuresults.com/ws/ws/wsladies.htm
    I took a quick look at the data, removing 2011-12 and reducing 2012-13 to 70% of its value. Here's what I got for the top 24, leaving in potential and actual retirees:

    1 3920 Mao Asada (not doing GP)
    2 3419 Julia Lipnitskaia
    3 3182 Adelina Sotnikova
    4 3021 Ashley Wagner
    5 2853 Akiko Suzuki (retired)
    6 2793 Elena Radionova
    7 2771 Gracie Gold
    8 2762 Carolina Kostner (probably retiring)
    9 2404 Anna Pogorilaya
    10 2389 Kanako Murakami
    11 2345 YuNa Kim (retired)
    12 2302 Satoko Miyahara
    13 2178 Valentina Marchei
    14 2086 Elizaveta Tuktamysheva
    15 1995 Viktoria Helgesson
    16 1975 Mae Berenice Meite
    17 1940 Haruka Imai
    18 1802 Courtney Hicks
    19 1697 Christina Gao
    20 1689 Zijun Li
    21 1643 Joshi Helgesson
    22 1620 Amelie Lacoste (reportedly retired)
    23 1595 Mirai Nagasu
    24 1584 Nathalie Weinzierl
    25 1557 Samantha Cesario
    26 1498 Agnes Zawadzki
    27 1450 Nikol Gosviani
    28 1377 Alena Leonova

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    Wow!! Good job and thank you for your efforts!!

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    Thanks chuckm for the reminder to change my rankings based on scrubbing previous years. It makes a big difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam-Skwantch View Post
    Don't they usually do Finlandia Cup together too every year??
    But Fin Cup doesn't have gala right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlexflower View Post
    But Fin Cup doesn't have gala right?
    Disappointingly, this is true (so far).

    Hanyu and Lipnitskaia haven't been there "every year", but they have the last two years. No guarantee either of them will go there again this year, or any other year - perhaps they are "too big" now :-D

    It would be a real coup for Finlandia if they do though - Olympic and World medallists. Tickets might suddenly become hard to get. And expensive :-P

    They also don't have a Pairs competition so far... just Mens and Ladies singles, Ice Dance... and Synchronised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YesWay View Post
    Disappointingly, this is true (so far).

    Hanyu and Lipnitskaia haven't been there "every year", but they have the last two years. No guarantee either of them will go there again this year, or any other year - perhaps they are "too big" now :-D

    It would be a real coup for Finlandia if they do though - Olympic and World medallists. Tickets might suddenly become hard to get. And expensive :-P

    They also don't have a Pairs competition so far... just Mens and Ladies singles, Ice Dance... and Synchronised.
    Praying for Julia to be there! My trip was cancelled this season due to personal reasons, so fingers crossed for next season!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckm View Post
    I took a quick look at the data, removing 2011-12 and reducing 2012-13 to 70% of its value. Here's what I got for the top 24, leaving in potential and actual retirees:

    1 3920 Mao Asada (not doing GP)
    2 3419 Julia Lipnitskaia
    3 3182 Adelina Sotnikova
    4 3021 Ashley Wagner
    5 2853 Akiko Suzuki (retired)
    6 2793 Elena Radionova
    7 2771 Gracie Gold
    8 2762 Carolina Kostner (probably retiring)
    9 2404 Anna Pogorilaya
    10 2389 Kanako Murakami
    11 2345 YuNa Kim (retired)
    12 2302 Satoko Miyahara
    13 2178 Valentina Marchei
    14 2086 Elizaveta Tuktamysheva
    15 1995 Viktoria Helgesson
    16 1975 Mae Berenice Meite
    17 1940 Haruka Imai
    18 1802 Courtney Hicks
    19 1697 Christina Gao
    20 1689 Zijun Li
    21 1643 Joshi Helgesson
    22 1620 Amelie Lacoste (reportedly retired)
    23 1595 Mirai Nagasu
    24 1584 Nathalie Weinzierl
    25 1557 Samantha Cesario
    26 1498 Agnes Zawadzki
    27 1450 Nikol Gosviani
    28 1377 Alena Leonova
    I noticed you indicated that Mao Asada is not doing the Grand Prix this year. Where did you hear about this or are you just guessing? Thanks in advance for letting us know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotoschool View Post
    I noticed you indicated that Mao Asada is not doing the Grand Prix this year. Where did you hear about this or are you just guessing? Thanks in advance for letting us know.
    Mao Asada wants to take a break
    but hasn't announced retirement yet

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    Russia won't be able to send any of the baby Russians from last year's JGPF to the GP this year because none of them are old enough, with the new age rules in place. I guess that means Alena Leonova may still get a GP event or two.

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    Actually this is a great season for lower ranked skaters to get 1 or even 2 GP assignments, including Leonova. *IF* Mao skips, and Caro and Akiko retire, that leaves just three of the top 6 for seeding. Same with seasons best and world rankings. Most of these remaining skaters are duplicates on both lists.

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    Just updated my original post with ladies projections...let me know if I need to change anything...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattieu View Post
    For dance, once the 2011/12 points are removed, the top 26 will look like this :-

    1 4330 Meryl DAVIS / Charlie WHITE
    2 3990 Tessa VIRTUE / Scott MOIR
    3 3495 Ekaterina BOBROVA / Dmitri SOLOVIEV
    4 3462 Anna CAPPELLINI / Luca LANOTTE
    5 3370 Kaitlyn WEAVER / Andrew POJE
    6 3250 Nathalie PECHALAT / Fabian BOURZAT
    7 2911 Elena ILINYKH / Nikita KATSALAPOV
    8 2643 Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES
    9 2394 Nelli ZHIGANSHINA / Alexander GAZSI
    10 2236 Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE
    11 2217 Maia SHIBUTANI / Alex SHIBUTANI
    12 2192 Ekaterina RIAZANOVA / Ilia TKACHENKO
    13 2184 Piper GILLES / Paul POIRIER
    14 2182 Penny COOMES / Nicholas BUCKLAND
    15 2163 Julia ZLOBINA / Alexei SITNIKOV
    16 1957 Gabriella PAPADAKIS / Guillaume CIZERON
    17 1844 Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI
    18 1750 Pernelle CARRON / Lloyd JONES
    19 1630 Nicole ORFORD / Thomas WILLIAMS
    20 1621 Victoria SINITSINA / Ruslan ZHIGANSHIN
    21 1599 Alexandra ALDRIDGE / Daniel EATON
    22 1524 Kaitlin HAWAYEK / Jean-Luc BAKER
    23 1509 Cathy REED / Chris REED
    24 1463 Tanja KOLBE / Stefano CARUSO
    25 1394 Ksenia MONKO / Kirill KHALIAVIN
    26 1386 Anna YANOVSKAYA / Sergey MOZGOV
    The points system is kind of weird though, because it's an amalgam of different results from different competitions. Usually people think of ranking in terms of where someone last finished at the Worlds or Olympics. There are also several dance teams on that list that didn't even compete at Worlds (eg. Orford/Williams, Hubbell/Donohue, etc.)

    For example, the weird thing about seeing Orford & Williams on that ranking list is that they finished 5th at Nationals this year and haven't even been to a World Championships yet, and had a TES score that was too low to even be named as alternates. Meanwhile, Paul & Islam, who finished ahead of them at Nationals and went to Worlds, don't even make this list. But I guess that's what happens when you're a team that hasn't had many GP events or been to 4 Continents recently, etc.

    Who makes it into the Top 26 if D&W and V&M retire as expected, along with P&B who have already said they will do so?

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