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Thread: Team Russia - Promising Young Skaters

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    Quote Originally Posted by BusyMom View Post
    Even the best coaches have different outlook about skating skills. You are entitle for your opinion.

    Sotnikova is definitely the best from the Russian skaters in terms of SS and jumps. And she is young enough to have more room for development. If she decides to stay in the competitive skating, she will become more refined skater. I even love her Swan Lake Ex., but you can see she stumbled a lot with just a simple gliding.

    As for Anna, I look back at her GPF and National, I still back up my opinion.

    I'm not saying that Gracie is a better skater just in term of SS. For artistic aspects, Gracie definitely needs to work on that. I love Radionova and Sotnikova. But I can be a person who can appreciate other skaters quality as well and not being over the top with my favourite that's for sure.
    She is the oldest among Russians, but still younger than GG. With age Russians will overtake GG almost in every aspect of skating.

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    It is strange to oppose Gracie with Russians as something united. Russians have very different skills, choreography, jumps techniques. If Gracie does have any advantages over all Russians, it is due to her seniority and maturity.

    I hope Gracie will gain a consistency and will be among the top skaters. But Russians are numerous and have a large room for improvement. I'm sure that some of them, not all, will progress a lot. Probability theory takes their part.

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    ^^ it wasn't my intention really. I just defended people attacked GG by pointing out her strength. It was kind of funny too, since I have been rooting for Radionova all along. This is ladies FS we're talking about, who knows, in a few years we might be talking about Karen Chen VS Prok instead. Whatever will happen, I wish all of them came through with their struggles.

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    I'm just worried about Anna P. She is quite tall and slim right now. If she puts on any weight, she may get into trouble with the jumps, like Polina K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhodium View Post
    It is strange to oppose Gracie with Russians as something united. Russians have very different skills, choreography, jumps techniques. If Gracie does have any advantages over all Russians, it is due to her seniority and maturity.

    I hope Gracie will gain a consistency and will be among the top skaters. But Russians are numerous and have a large room for improvement. I'm sure that some of them, not all, will progress a lot. Probability theory takes their part.
    Gracie has the advantage of being more mature
    thus will have a higher chance of increasing her PCS
    she has great speed, power , skating skills to add to also being one of the most attractive facially amongst the ladies

    Gracie has solid technique, is already a young lady and has huge 3-3 jumps
    Gracie is making also a huge impact in US FS and she is being taken as role models by younger Americans
    this we haven't seen since Kwan's time, she could become a continental household name

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    Gracie has solid technique, is already a young lady and has huge 3-3 jumps
    Gracie is making also a huge impact in US FS and she is being taken as role models by younger Americans
    this we haven't seen since Kwan's time, she could become a continental household name
    It's so disappointing that someone who posts racist tweets can become a role model.

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    This thread should be changed to the Russian Babies versus Gracie Gold thread!

    Right now Gracie is not at the level of Adelina and Yulia. They clearly separated themselves from Gracie this past season. Now will Gracie improve enough to challenge them and be able to beat the other Russian girls coming on strong the next 4 years? I hope she can. We shall see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by melissa_ire View Post
    I was really impressed with Anna P at Worlds, having read a few interviews I like her even more. She seems to be grounded, levelheaded and mature beyond her age girl. I’ve come across one interview taken straight after China Cup and translate here a part of it (sorry - little time may be not a good translation):

    ‘‘Q: You didn’t hide your emotions when finished in first ahead of Carolina Costner. Do you think she might have been hurt by it?
    A: No, I don’t think so, at least she didn’t show it. But who I really managed to unnerve was Adelina Sotnikova. She was really angry that I did better than her and I think our next competition won’t be easy. Even during training sessions in China she used some dirty tactics. Mind you, Adelina is a honey outside the rink but on the rink she can be very intimidating. I didn’t let it unbalance me, it was even interesting to watch like some perfomance. She would stand there not looking like not noticing me at all, but just when I would pass past her preparing for a jump she would follow me so closely that I would have to give up well knowing that if that was anyone else they would let me to do a jump but not Adelina and that if I still went for a jump we would sure crash into each other. Her purpose was to demoralize me but it didn’t work!’’

    http://www.sovsport.ru/news/text-item/656865
    What? As the great John McEnroe would say "You cannot be serious!" I am so shocked to read this. The meaning may have been slightly off in what Anna said but we get the drift. The question is how will OGM and Queen Russian AdeQueena handle on ice warmups with her compatriots? Will she stare them down? Will she resort to hip checks? Oh heck Yulia will intimidate them all in the coming years with her icy glares and stares! But let's be real these Russian girls say what they mean they don't hold anything back. Ade stated why she deserved Sochi gold and said she wanted all the golds! These girls truly don't know how to be politically correct nor do they want to be.

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    Lol, rink intimidation isn't anything new. Didn't Kat Witt employ it back in the day? Made her way to two Olympic golds, so I'd say Witt did quite well for herself.

    I prefer (most of) the Russian girls to Gracie, but Gracie does have one thing they don't--she seems to have made it through puberty intact. I really hope Yulia will be fine; it's inevitable that she'll lose some of her insane flexibility, but I hope she keeps her jumps going forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott512 View Post
    What? As the great John McEnroe would say "You cannot be serious!" I am so shocked to read this. The meaning may have been slightly off in what Anna said but we get the drift. The question is how will OGM and Queen Russian AdeQueena handle on ice warmups with her compatriots? Will she stare them down? Will she resort to hip checks? Oh heck Yulia will intimidate them all in the coming years with her icy glares and stares! But let's be real these Russian girls say what they mean they don't hold anything back. Ade stated why she deserved Sochi gold and said she wanted all the golds! These girls truly don't know how to be politically correct nor do they want to be.
    I love that tbh.
    You are right about Yulia though.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sandpiper View Post
    Lol, rink intimidation isn't anything new. Didn't Kat Witt employ it back in the day? Made her way to two Olympic golds, so I'd say Witt did quite well for herself.
    It's not news indeed. Some use it and some not, some more and some less but nothing new there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    Gracie has the advantage of being one of the most attractive facially amongst the ladies
    Gracie is very pretty, but wouldn't say she's got much of an advantage over 14yo Proklova...
    www.niasam.ru/20324_i_gallerybig.jpg
    www.fskate.ru/photos/image21688.jpg
    http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/201312/04...9_14332094.jpg

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    ^Woah. You're joking, right? That's way too young! (I don't get Skyfly's Gracie obsession either, but at least Gracie looks like a woman.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by papa View Post
    Gracie is very pretty, but wouldn't say she's got much of an advantage over 14yo Proklova...
    www.niasam.ru/20324_i_gallerybig.jpg
    www.fskate.ru/photos/image21688.jpg
    http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/201312/04...9_14332094.jpg
    Proklova is still a baby. Anna P is gorgeous and Gracie has zero advantage in that sector over her.
    But, as they say, the beauty is in the eye of the beholder. So, let's not follow Skyfly in another endless and pointless discussion about beauty and about Gracie.
    This is a thread about russians ladies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandpiper View Post
    ^Woah. You're joking, right? That's way too young! (I don't get Skyfly's Gracie obsession either, but at least Gracie looks like a woman.)
    Too young for what?
    She is 14yo and Senior Russian Championship 4th place finisher - she has to be considered as potential Gracie rival for upcoming years, doesn't she?

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    Too young for me to see her as attractive? Since that's the part of Skyfly's post you were referring to.

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