05-20-2014, 09:26 PM
Originally Posted by s_parks
She's super fast, super cute, almost as flexible as Yulia with fine jumps and presence, love her!
The only thing I don't like is how she straightens her arms before some of the jumps, it just doesn't fit in with the flow imho.
05-21-2014, 07:45 AM
Do you think in a way Yulia has made things rough on other skaters because now casual fans expect skaters to be able to do an I spin and a perfectly vertical bielman spin etc. This is part of the reason I think Proklova will be the next real popular girl because she fits this modern mold.
05-21-2014, 01:54 PM
That's damn right. When I see how much effort it takes some skaters to make a lamentable i-spin I ask myself why they do it in the first place if it is so much worse than Yulia's? Bielman on the other hand looks good in most of the cases (may be the rotation is often slow) - hers is just perfect.
Originally Posted by YLFan
05-21-2014, 01:56 PM
Thank God for Stephane Lambiel and Matt Savoie!
No. Thank God figure skating is not about one hyper extended I spin or a vertical bielman. I love Proklova and think she's the most promising young skater, but not because of her bielman or I spin.
Originally Posted by YLFan
05-21-2014, 02:00 PM
True, the question though is why one would do a particular element with the sub-par execution when the next skater will do it perfectly. Of course, figure skating is not about the i-spin. There are jumps, for one thing and many other things.
Originally Posted by shine
05-21-2014, 02:22 PM
Why should other skaters also perform the triple lutz, triple toe combo when Yuna already does hers close to perfect? Why should other skaters do the triple axel when Yuzuru Hanyu does such a huge one with a one foot entrance? There isn't any harm in trying and just because Yulia's I-spin and Bielman are so jaw dropping doesn't mean no one else should try the element, this goes for all elements. Just because a skater isn't as flexible it doesn't mean judges will score them less, just that they'll give more GOE to the one that does it better. Yulia's I-spin isn't even consistently centred anyway and she needs to work on that. It's a competitive sport, people should try what they want to so that they can improve. None of my friends who only watch every 4 years thought Yulia was the standard anyway.
Originally Posted by firstname.lastname@example.org
05-21-2014, 02:40 PM
My reasoning stays with the i-spin just because some very good skaters show so much effort to do the spin which is technically not even the i-spin as their body position is very far from an "i" it's much closer to "r" so that it should be qualified as the "r-spin". There are plenty of other spins where the difference in execution would not be that striking.
05-21-2014, 02:59 PM
I thought it used be called a Y spin...then Sasha came along and made it the I spin...
05-21-2014, 03:14 PM
Rejoicing in the land of Kwan
Michelle did the Y-spin; Sasha did the I-spin. I guess the I-spin is a variation of the Y-spin, but as of now they're two different spins. I'd say the Y-spin is done with only one arm supporting the free leg and variations to the I-spin involve both hands on the free leg in some way.
Originally Posted by leoncorazon
Julia's version is different b/c of the way she pulls her free leg closer to her body. Her hip flexibility also adds more to the spin.
I'm sure someone will come along who can do the spin like Julia. Point is they are more the exception to the I-spin than the rule. This girl can already do her needle spin.
05-21-2014, 03:25 PM
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