Meglio l'ultimo sorriso, che il primo riso.
True. The only thing I don't like about her jumps is the long preparation.
Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy
Wicked Yankee Girl
And the fact that she falls more often than I would like.
But yes. When she lands them, Caro' s jumps are lovely.
The men mostly have good technique. You may get a few guys with a wonky jump (usually 3A).
On the girl's side, not so much. Yuna is pretty much the standard for proper jumps I think.
I just watched So Youn's program and I must say I was impressed with her jumps. That lutz could not be more outside edge. And she definitely rotates in the air, so that's a huge plus.
Originally Posted by CARA
Her struggle is consistency....at the beginning of the season she fared so poorly she didn't even get any JGP spots.
I'm hoping her performance here was an indicator of an upward trajectory...
Yuna's Ice Rink
you're right.. one of the commentators from the british eurosport mentioned that she must be nurtured carefully.. i hope the KSU will get their act together...
Originally Posted by Mrs. P
consistency is very critical if she wants to built a reputation...
The Comeback Kid
Don't know anything about technique. But British Commentators said Gracie had the best 3lutz-3t of the competition
Honestly, I wasn't even thinking of that axel. I was just looking at her 2A+3T in her Worlds LP and on the set up, she kind of just...waited? A split second too long to be natural. I remember seeing a warm-up (for her SP? I think) and she was doing a 2A and waited even longer (and not bc there were skaters in her way). Nathan does the same on his 3A, except he waits even longer. Seeing as they're both coached by Raphael, I guess that's the technique he teaches.
Originally Posted by Eladola
How does he even land on his feet? His whole upper body is pointed towards the ice...I guess his body has adapted to jumping that way and can pull it off.
Originally Posted by karne
Why do women have a harder time with Lutz? Sorry if this is a not-PC question or if it leads to not-PC answers. It's been bugging me some time. When I look at the protocols of any international event almost always I see majority of top 10 finishers were unable to execute correct Lutz.
Its the only jump where I see a stark difference between men and women, technique-wise.
Just a guess but maybe because it's one of the last triples (I think) a junior/senior lady learns so it still needs improvement/refinement compared to the other "easier" triples, even when the lutz is in the program. Also, flutzes are a common habit among lower level skaters, and it's common for coaches to never attempt to fix it. Especially when one has done flutzes for years, it's very hard to break the habit, and changing the jump could possibly result in the skater losing the jump altogether. Maybe coaches figure why not land a triple flutz combo than fall on a triple lutz...?
Originally Posted by usethis2
Caro an Tukta are the best jumpers!!!
I love Anna, but she has gotten consistently called for the wrong edge on the triple flip. There's a reason she does the 3Lo in her SP. Otherwise, I agree that her jumps are very strong. I love her huge 3Lz.
Originally Posted by dorispulaski
My vote also goes to Carolina. Her jumps are gorgeous when she's on; she does all 5 non axel triples with good edges. She's been telegraphing them less lately, too. Except for the 2A, it's not as great s her other jumps. Yu-Na is also very good, but the questionable edge on her flip and lack of 3Lo put Carolina ahead, IMO.
@lutzlover: that makes sense but still does not address the discrepancy between men and women..
not only bad jumping techniques but also she has tinyyyyyy jump
Originally Posted by johnsmith72
I disagree with the theory of order learned. I think issue has more to do with the female bone structure and how weight is balanced over the boot/blade, than the actual difficulty of the jump. For natural "jumpers," it seems the lutz comes relatively easy, it is the salchow that is tricky. I have seen it this issue with "jumpers" that are working both their double and triples.
Originally Posted by lutzlover
But I do agree that if a flutz is not corrected early, it will be almost impossible to fix years later.