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    Have posted this before. I've never understood why the Chan hate. HE didn't judge himself. A panel of judges did. It's not like he stole his title from someone - it was given to him. And I might add that Hanyu fell twice? and still managed to win? Where's the hate being thrown at him? Patrick had made (what some would call) controversial remarks but so has Plushenko and others and they don't get nearly the vitriol that Patrick has. I still much prefer his smooth style of skating with clean edges and beautiful body positions to Hanyu's skinny self and sometimes unfinished movement. I think where Patrick went wrong - skating wise - was not having a bonified skating coach who would help in choosing a dramatic piece of music and have it choreographed to show Patrick's strength and skills. I do hope he comes back and comes back soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noskates View Post
    I think where Patrick went wrong - skating wise - was not having a bonified skating coach who would help in choosing a dramatic piece of music and have it choreographed to show Patrick's strength and skills. I do hope he comes back and comes back soon.
    He left Christy Krall. Was it because to reduce the fee for coaching?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meoima View Post
    He left Christy Krall for his current dance coach. Was it because to reduce the fee for coaching?
    Patrick Chan: Trying to win Olympics on the cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandpiper View Post
    Patrick Chan: Trying to win Olympics on the cheap.
    So apparently Kathy Johnson's coaching fee is less expensive than Christy Krall? I mean this is weird! Canada Fed wants the first Olympic Gold for PChan, but refuse to pay the coaching fee for him? Or PChan thought he didn't need a skating coach anymore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noskates View Post
    Have posted this before. I've never understood why the Chan hate. HE didn't judge himself. A panel of judges did. It's not like he stole his title from someone - it was given to him. And I might add that Hanyu fell twice? and still managed to win? Where's the hate being thrown at him? Patrick had made (what some would call) controversial remarks but so has Plushenko and others and they don't get nearly the vitriol that Patrick has. I still much prefer his smooth style of skating with clean edges and beautiful body positions to Hanyu's skinny self and sometimes unfinished movement. I think where Patrick went wrong - skating wise - was not having a bonified skating coach who would help in choosing a dramatic piece of music and have it choreographed to show Patrick's strength and skills. I do hope he comes back and comes back soon.
    1) A lot of Chan hate has to do with the fact that many people perceived Chan's comments regarding his controversial wins as arrogant, petty, and defensive.
    2) Ugh, can people stop bringing up the point that Hanyu won twice and didn't get receive as much flak? Despite falling twice, Hanyu was still better than the next best. That wasn't the same case with Chan's Worlds performances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilahozi View Post
    1) A lot of Chan hate has to do with the fact that many people perceived Chan's comments regarding his controversial wins as arrogant, petty, and defensive.
    2) Ugh, can people stop bringing up the point that Hanyu won twice and didn't get receive as much flak? Despite falling twice, Hanyu was still better than the next best. That wasn't the same case with Chan's Worlds performances.

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    I certainly don't condone Patrick comments and it debases him in my eyes (not that he's the only skater to make such comments). However in terms of regarding him as a skater in general and what he does on the ice, there's no denying that at his best he's one of the most magnificent skaters ever. And instead of trying to tear him down for some judging controversies, they should simply regard his talents on the ice. Although I suppose, as the saying goes, haters gonna hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianSkaterGuy View Post
    I certainly don't condone Patrick comments and it debases him in my eyes (not that he's the only skater to make such comments). However in terms of regarding him as a skater in general and what he does on the ice, there's no denying that at his best he's one of the most magnificent skaters ever. And instead of trying to tear him down for some judging controversies, they should simply regard his talents on the ice. Although I suppose, as the saying goes, haters gonna hate.
    Well said . He is an amazing skater despite all the hate he receives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianSkaterGuy View Post
    I certainly don't condone Patrick comments and it debases him in my eyes (not that he's the only skater to make such comments). However in terms of regarding him as a skater in general and what he does on the ice, there's no denying that at his best he's one of the most magnificent skaters ever. And instead of trying to tear him down for some judging controversies, they should simply regard his talents on the ice. Although I suppose, as the saying goes, haters gonna hate.
    well theres no denying that he's a great skater but maybe you(among others) should take your own advice into account and stop tearing down another skater's succes just to prove your point that chan is the best

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    Quote Originally Posted by annca View Post
    well theres no denying that he's a great skater but maybe you(among others) should take your own advice into account and stop tearing down another skater's succes just to prove your point that chan is the best
    I don't think Chan is the best, though. I think when he skates as well as he can (like TEB 2013), he's the best, but there are other skaters who I would consider better than him in a number of areas and for a number of reasons. But I certainly don't think he's unartistic or a mess as some would have him out to be. I also don't think it's a big deal that he missed Worlds either.

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    http://globalnews.ca/video/1298443/t...n-patrick-chan

    Saw this in the Fan Fest and this video totally answers the question for "what's next"

    He doesn't mention anything about university but he is hoping to go for at least another 4 years of competitive skating and to possibly even win at Pyeongchang.

    Now that he's put retirement rumors to rest, it's all about keeping up with the new crop of skaters that are going to come out in 4 years time.

    I saw a couple of posts pertaining to this some pages back he has to get a technical coach to work on his jumps. Especially the triple axel, and maybe even incorporating other quads. Has he landed another type of quad in practice? Just curious.

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    ^ Great interview! Patrick seems like he has found a sweet spot in his life going forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lbc2138 View Post
    He doesn't mention anything about university but he is hoping to go for at least another 4 years of competitive skating and to possibly even win at Pyeongchang.

    Now that he's put retirement rumors to rest, it's all about keeping up with the new crop of skaters that are going to come out in 4 years time.
    But I think Chan said in an interview on CBC last month that he would be skipping the Grand Prix Season, correct?

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    It's a long thread so apologies that I haven't managed to read all of them, but my two cents' worth : 1) I'd like to see Patrick Chan continue competing and also try for gold at Pyeongchang 2018. He has a great quality in his skating - if he doesn't make gold, that's fine. Many of the great and well loved skaters never got Olympic gold; some who did then disappeared without a trace.... Still, it would be super if he did get gold with good routines in 2018. 2) Yuzuru Hanyu skated such a wonderful short program at Sochi - one of the nicest skates I've enjoyed of all time. (Credit also to Buttle for the choreography which really suited the music and Yuzuru). Have to say I didn't like Yuzuru's free skate program! Patrick's would have been nice without the stumbles....but he did have a shaky short program too. 2014 could well go down as the year people won or lost places on the podium based on their short program (apart from the ladies' title at Sochi, but that's another thread...ha ha). 3) I think there are indeed skaters who handle pressure at the Olympics well (eg Shizuka Arakawa, Viktor Petrenko) and others who don't. I think some champions in various different sports have put it well - "you're always going to have a bad day or choke at some point- you just have to try to choke on another day/different competition and peak at the Olympics instead!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan O View Post
    But I think Chan said in an interview on CBC last month that he would be skipping the Grand Prix Season, correct?
    Yeah, he could just come back next worlds or even the ones after that

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