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    Quote Originally Posted by slider11 View Post
    Yes, I agree that "light" has never been their best suit. I guess the paso has to be serious so I suppose a distinctive fd is in order. They've always had a close, flirty relationship on the ice so maybe this fd can be a je suis malade without the malade! I'm wondering if they are considering waltzy classical like die fliedermous?
    Ohhh, I'd be down with that!!! I really loved their Je Suis...so I'd love something similar

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    They will compete at Nebelhorn Trophy this year! Which is coming up very soon!

    And their ALS Ice Bucket Challenge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT0L...ature=youtu.be

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    Their FD music is to Max Richter's recomposition of "Four Seasons." I really like this muscial arrangement; and am very interested to see which pieces they use and how it is pieced together!

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    http://www.skatecanada.ca/AboutUs/Ne...S/Default.aspx

    Really nice interview. They describe their new programs!

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    Just saw their SD at Nebelhorn. That program is sex on a stick. I need a cold shower now.

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    I really like their SD; and I imagine it'll only get better as the season goes on! They were really great. They do latin dances well.

    I love her dress, especially the skirt of it! It's very pretty and flowy on ice. I can't wait to see their FD tomorrow!!!!!

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    FD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbYf...FACjNBHeDwddww
    SD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtI4...wddww&index=52

    I really love their programs!!! I can't wait to see how they develop over the course of this season!!!

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    Well you know paso really is the male peacock dance, and only two of the men at Nebelhorn seem to have realized it: Andrew, of course, being one of them (the other, surprisingly, is Jean-Luc Baker). This should just sizzle by the second half of the season. It totally plays to all of their strengths.

    I'll have to watch the FD a few more times. It's a quirky musical arrangement of the Vivaldi. My biggest initial complaint is that the diagonal step sequence looks more stapled on than integrated. And they're repeating their cantilever lift (spectacular as it is, I am not sure if it wise to repeat it for a second year in a row). And the video I was watching was choppy, so it is hard to get a sense of the program as a whole. Early days. Looking forward to seeing how it develops. It is definitely A Bid For Gold program.

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    Granted, I'm a big W/P fan, but am trying to be as impartial as possible in assessing their new FD. No matter how I slice it, for me it's a work of art (I am so in awe of their willingness to challenge themselves with respect to different styles of dance).

    WeakAnkles, are you aware that Max Richter's version of Four Seasons is not a rearrangement but a recomposition? According to Richter, he discarded 75% of Vivaldi's music. It's funny that the two criticisms you mentioned are some of my favorite parts of the program. I think what you are referring to as the cantilever lift is the curve lift where Kaitlyn is supporting pretty much 100% of her body weight. It looks like in this version, Andrew actually ends up holding her with only one hand, rather than two. Why not use it this season--it's spectacular and very difficult. I hate to go here, but there are more than a few dance teams who recycle lifts--and whole programs--season after season. I also love the diagonal footwork--it is fast and difficult, and they make great use of the new rule that allows a retrogression in diagonal and serpentine footwork sequences.

    I hope I don't sound preachy, but I'm just so in love with this program that I want everyone to love it. Obviously, that's not possible. Ice dance has been my favorite discipline for a long time now and if I've learned anything, it's that to truly appreciate ice dance, I had to make a real effort to understand it. The beauty of ice dance is that programs really can grow over the course of the season, and actually with each watching of a particular performance. I'd love to know your thoughts, WeakAnkles, after you've seen a few more outings of Four Seasons.

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    I definitly love their FD , even more than their SD, and her dress is perfect. I cant believe C/B won the FD

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    I love both of Weaver and Poje's dances, too. But I think the musical cuts of the Vivaldi Four Seasons are a bit ragged in parts when they are trying to make the music fit the choreography rather than the skating match the music. Love to see that ironed out. Regardless, I do like it's potential very much and did prefer it over Chock and Bates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebee51 View Post
    Granted, I'm a big W/P fan, but am trying to be as impartial as possible in assessing their new FD. No matter how I slice it, for me it's a work of art (I am so in awe of their willingness to challenge themselves with respect to different styles of dance).

    WeakAnkles, are you aware that Max Richter's version of Four Seasons is not a rearrangement but a recomposition? According to Richter, he discarded 75% of Vivaldi's music. It's funny that the two criticisms you mentioned are some of my favorite parts of the program. I think what you are referring to as the cantilever lift is the curve lift where Kaitlyn is supporting pretty much 100% of her body weight. It looks like in this version, Andrew actually ends up holding her with only one hand, rather than two. Why not use it this season--it's spectacular and very difficult. I hate to go here, but there are more than a few dance teams who recycle lifts--and whole programs--season after season. I also love the diagonal footwork--it is fast and difficult, and they make great use of the new rule that allows a retrogression in diagonal and serpentine footwork sequences.

    I hope I don't sound preachy, but I'm just so in love with this program that I want everyone to love it. Obviously, that's not possible. Ice dance has been my favorite discipline for a long time now and if I've learned anything, it's that to truly appreciate ice dance, I had to make a real effort to understand it. The beauty of ice dance is that programs really can grow over the course of the season, and actually with each watching of a particular performance. I'd love to know your thoughts, WeakAnkles, after you've seen a few more outings of Four Seasons.
    Yes the lift is spectacular and yes it is difficult, but there is also the matter of "familiarity breeds contempt." Now that is a deliberate overstatement, but I do believe that a lift loses it specialness when it is repeated year to year. I already want to yell at Hawayek and Baker for repeating the same curve/cantilever lift (they did in both their SD and FD last year, and they're doing it in their SD AND FD this year--enough already!). YMMV, of course.

    I agree with slider11 that the music cuts in the FD are jarring. It's the old temptation to paste together all the "best bits" of a piece of music, whether it makes for a bumpy listening experience or not. The only time in recent memory where I think that approach has worked is D/W's Scheherazade. There isn't a natural transition into that diagonal, wither musically or choreographically; it's too abrupt; for me it feels stapled on. It disrupts the flow.

    And actually, yes, I CAN believe that C/B won the FD over them here. I realize there is not much love on these boards for C/B, but that is by far the most sophisticated program they've ever done, and it is obvious they have been working their butts off through the off-season. W/P's FD looks much less practiced at this point in the season. But it's still Early Days. I think the FD has loads of potential, but I also think it does them and their team a disservice not to acknowledge the program still has kinks which need to be worked out.

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