2010 Nationals - Vanessa fell during the twizzles, but that was the only mistake and they received a big deduction for it instead of the usual Level 4's they received. W&P did not skate cleanly - they didn't have a fall, but they were out of unison on their twizzles and were tight and played it safe. I re-watched it the other day and Tracy Wilson (who has more ice dance knowledge than you or I) pointed out that both teams were strong in different ways and it could go either way.
2011 Nationals - W&P and C&P each had a minor error in their FD (both Vanessa and Kaitlyn traveled on their twizzles) and it was again a close contest. W&P were rewarded with a Level 4 for their excellent footwork and won the technical mark. C&P were rewarded for the complicated choreography, lifts and other aspects of the Dean program. It would have been fair for it to go either way.
2012 Nationals - I think G&P were somewhat overmarked because I think the judges were marking Piper more along the lines of the way they would normally have marked Vanessa. So they probably should not have scored over 100 in their FD. But it didn't change much or deny anyone at World spot since Piper hadn't been released and R&H got to go to Worlds anyway. P&I didn't skate well so didn't miss out on anything to G&P.
2013 Nationals - G&P's FD score was probably a bit generous, but it didn't change the outcome in any way as P&I wiped out in the FD and R&H wiped out in the SD and both were off the podium and out of Worlds contention. It ended up being O&W who vaulted over both of them to end up on the podium with V&M and G&P.
C&P won medals at almost all their GP's, as well as doing better 2 years in a row at the GPF compared to W&P, so they were more consistent internationally. And they didn't just get assigned Skate Canada.
And you're showing a bit of a bias yourself since you forgot to mention that W&P had made errors of their own at 2010 & 2011 Nationals and had underperformed internationally. Btw, your contention that W&P were in the running for a medal at 2011 Worlds is pure supposition and doesn't make sense.
And if Skate Canada favours Poirier, I'd be interested to know why this is. You refer to insiders - have they explained why this apparent bias exists?
And btw, considering that W&P are clearly ahead of G&P in overall ability right now, I don't think Skate Canada plans to favour G&P over W&P. G&P have never been close rivals to W&P in the way C&P were.
Don't let 'pangtongfan' see this. He/she will think you are one of those crafty Skate Canada officials trying to shill for Poirier!
Originally Posted by pharmtech1
I think Gold will present yet another tired music choice to which she will skate as if she is an actress imitating a figure skater instead of actually feeling the music (I really like Gracie but I dislike really disliked her programs this year - they made her seem so fake). I think Polina will win nationals but will struggle with puberty in years to come. I think Ashley will continue to slide down the rankings of US skaters but I think this may fuel her to be even more aggressive and consistent (I think she does best when she is the underdog). I think she will stay another two years and then retire as the newer skaters overtake her.
I think Sotnikova will return and medal on the grand prix but will not dominate and will retire. I think Lipnitskaia will remain full of talent but somewhat inconsistent which will cost her at least one or two titles. I also think she will preform a lovely program but one that will be somewhat disappointing compared to Schindler's List which will be a difficult theme to top. Pogorilaya will continue to improve and will lead the charge of the baby russians most of whom will only last 1-2 seasons and then will never be heard from again. I think at least two Russian ladies will medal at worlds.
I hope Carolina retires, I would like for Mao to return but I don't think she will. I think there will be a rise of the young Koreans as well as improvement of the Chinese but I think the Japanese ladies will fad a little internationally.
I think Brown will stuggle with a Quad, Kovtun will remain inconsistent and Hunyu will dominate although rarely with a clean program.
V/T will win everything they enter but the young chinese teams will rise and begin to medal consistently as well. I don't think they'll challenge v/t though, I also think D/R will continue to be overscored (just my opinion) and the US will spend another quadrant with no podium finishes at worlds in pairs.
Ice Dance: I have no idea what to expect but it should be fun to see who dominates. I do think that Davis and White will sit out this season but will return for a comeback in 2-3 years.
Misc: I predict I will dislike the use of lyrics in the pairs/men/ladies programs but I don't think many people will use any lyrics. I predict at least 50% of those who do will be using music that is at least 25 years old (Michael Jackson and Beatles may soon have to join the banned music list...). I also predict Tara and Johnnie will call worlds on NBCSN (which I will enjoy).
The land of SnuggleBat and Cuddlepie