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    I have the World Championships on the TV right now. This post I guess has good news/ bad news. The good news is that when Ashley Wagner got on the ice, my roommate recognized her from the Olympics "hey, didn't she skate at the Olympics?" Further good news- it means Ashley's program was memorable. Bad news: didn't she skate this program at the Olympics? Why is she skating the same program? When I explained that it takes months to prepare a program, her response was "so they just skate the same program over and over all year? Interesting." She would have turned the channel were it not me watching. I have a feeling this is a pretty average response from today's viewer. Somehow we need to freshen the sport to bring in new viewers, rather than turning them away. I'm not saying have skaters change their programs for every competition, obviously, but something needs to be done.

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    You cannot win all. If someone is not prepared to see a program three times in a year, he is not prepared to be more than a casual viewer which looks a competition because has nothing better to do in the evening....

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    Disapointed they completely cut out Anna Pogorilya of the show for an extended Gold love fest.

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    Is there going to be replay of that nbc worlds ? I wanted to watch and again I forgot...

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    It's not that she wasn't prepared to watch a program again, it is that she had no idea that is the way it works. Other than ardent fans, most people probably have no idea how much work it takes to put a program together, get it competition ready, and improve it/ grow with it throughout the year. I think something could be done to educate people about that process, so as to draw more people in, rather than just dismissing them as you seem to have done.

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    I am not dismissing, but i am also not a preacher and a walking-teacher ready to spread my knowledge on anyone of they want or not.

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    I hope they show data on display for each element, for example jump max hight, width, rotation by digree at least and slomo replay later. A lot of numbers on display will look just cool and help understand the effort of skaters. The sport will become interesting then as much as or more than football, baseball, basketball for casual viewers and everyone will go home early to watch TV broadcasting figure skate competitions and grow population of skaters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carriecmu0503 View Post
    Other than ardent fans, most people probably have no idea how much work it takes to put a program together, get it competition ready, and improve it/ grow with it throughout the year. I think something could be done to educate people about that process, so as to draw more people in, rather than just dismissing them as you seem to have done.
    A popular reality TV series could do the trick. No idea how to create one, though. Skaters don't show a lot of skin while practicing in frigid conditions, nor can they engage in binge drinking with the accompanying alcohol fueled arguments during competitive season. They already tried the DWTS route with Skating With The Stars, which wasn't a success. (Unlike in several non-US countries, where shows like Dancing On Ice have done well and probably made the audience a bit more aware of how challenging even simple footwork is.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by nimi View Post
    A popular reality TV series could do the trick. No idea how to create one, though. Skaters don't show a lot of skin while practicing in frigid conditions, nor can they engage in binge drinking with the accompanying alcohol fueled arguments during competitive season. They already tried the DWTS route with Skating With The Stars, which wasn't a success. (Unlike in several non-US countries, where shows like Dancing On Ice have done well and probably made the audience a bit more aware of how challenging even simple footwork is.)
    Well there's a big difference between teaching someone over the course of a few months how to do the fox trot, rumba and samba vs. in a few months teaching someone with no past experience of figure skating to do pair's skating elements like throw jumps, lifts, etc. that is going to draw interest in the sport. And I don't think that DWTS has drawn a huge amount of interest into ballroom dancing. So even if they were able to do a reality TV series like that again and it manages to be successful, that doesn't necessarily translate to competitive figure skating becoming more popular.

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    The reality show idea made me think about a "Project Runway"-type program but IDK how it could be managed. Those shows take a lot of time -- hard to imagine a skater sacrificing that much training. The logistics would be crazy, too...and who would do the Tim Gunn thing?

    When people ask me to explain why skating fascinates me, I start by saying that it happens on ice. When you consider how much effort it sometimes takes the average person just to stay upright on an icy sidewalk -- sheesh! Figure skaters launch themselves into the air, turn around multiple times, and then land on one leg, on a 1/8-1/16" blade, and have to look gorgeous and effortless while doing it. And all on ICE!

    The costumes, music, and makeup really disguise how tough it is. I wish more people could appreciate that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nimi View Post
    A popular reality TV series could do the trick. No idea how to create one, though.
    I don't know about you guys, but I loved the Tessa and Scott show that was on this past winter!! I enjoyed getting to know them and genuinely think something like this can work in the US. I know that plenty of people were critical of the show, saying that the editing was problematic and it dramatized the situation that they were in, and while I agree, I do think that this is one very real way we can get a new generation involved. Give someone like Ashley a show on Bravo and it will be a hit! I know that there was the show on TLC a couple years ago that followed Bebe Liang, Alissa Czisny and Danielle Kahle....but quite frankly, that painted all figure skating girls as innocent little dolls who do no wrong while being surrounded by pink and light blue editting. America won't watch that. America will watch someone with spunk, sass and humor. Think Johnny Weir's show but on a mainstream channel, hence Bravo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YLFan View Post
    Disapointed they completely cut out Anna Pogorilya of the show for an extended Gold love fest.
    They showed Americans + the medalists for both the men and ladies. Since Pogo didn't make the podium, they didn't show her LP. NBC's coverage of figure skating tends to be very American-centric, but I was more annoyed by the incessant chattiness of Tara/Johnny than the Gold interview.

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    NHL does a a show that leads up to the winter classic that shows two teams competing mid season with tons of behind the scenes footage. Not a drama based reality show but one that shows the lives of the players from within and beyond the game. I would love to see intense training, skaters in the warm-up area's, rink side footage, and some personal life segments from the skating world. I know a few former Olympians and they live interesting lives worthy of a TV show. If you could catch a few in their prime it would be great. They could do a lead up to the GPF then follow the top skaters to worlds. I'd watch it. No idea who would pay for it. That would be the biggest problem.

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    I feel like a reality show could be successful if they featured two pairs or teams (with at least one that regularly hangs out off ice) that share the same snarky coach or train in the same rink with snarky coaches.
    I just feel like for it to be successful with non-skating crowds, they'd have to have some competition and drama....and a witchy/snarky coach(es) would also help bring some entertainment...

    Either that of an individual skater who is flamboyant and outspoken with a lot of interesting people that make up his/her team.

    - But, idk if it would work just for the simple sake that when individuals/teams/pairs are training, having a distraction like camera crews and obligated outings off-ice might be a distraction...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nimi View Post
    A popular reality TV series could do the trick. No idea how to create one, though. Skaters don't show a lot of skin while practicing in frigid conditions, nor can they engage in binge drinking with the accompanying alcohol fueled arguments during competitive season. They already tried the DWTS route with Skating With The Stars, which wasn't a success. (Unlike in several non-US countries, where shows like Dancing On Ice have done well and probably made the audience a bit more aware of how challenging even simple footwork is.)

    You could watch the reruns of the Tessa & Scott reality show

    http://nathaliepechalats.tumblr.com/...er-tessa-scott

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