04-22-2014, 11:21 PM
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If I were able to choose one skater between Caro and Mao to return it would be Mao. She seems to be still nearly unbeatable and won't likely suffer the drop in scores I would fear for Caro. Mao just had highest scoring SP ever. Game on?
Originally Posted by Adios
Definetely not opposed to Caro's return but I'd think the likes of Gracie,Ashley,(insert Russian here) can beat her going forward.
05-29-2014, 07:26 PM
Fernandez- dominate the 2014-2015 season, winning every event. Leaving Hanyu with no victories in events Fernandez is in and needing to regroup for next year.
Firus- sadly to be bumped off Canada's world team by Nguyen.
Weaver & Poje- to dominate and easily win each competition. The Italian world champions are probably retired now that their top pair is splitting with the impending marriage of the male pair partner and the lovely lady dance partner.
Bobrova & Soloviev- sadly to drop to Russian #3 behind the two new pairs, and possibly retire due to his ongoing back problems. I hope I am wrong.
Sotnikova- to dominate and win every competition and continue to prove to everyone she is by far the best skater in history.
05-30-2014, 03:13 AM
Hahaha. Maybe if she gets Russian citizenship and they compete at Cup of Russia. Otherwise a Caro in even mediocre condition will beat Ashley.
Originally Posted by Sam-Skwantch
05-30-2014, 03:29 AM
Sorry to disappoint you, but no-one actually ever said that B/H will probably not compete anymore, but C/L should continue together as far as I know...
Originally Posted by rolandgarros
05-30-2014, 06:20 AM
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Ah..poor Ashley. Even after Caro's single jump showcase at Worlds she still has more clout. The question for me is why was I choosing between Mao and Caro? That isn't the topic or relevant to anything.
Originally Posted by CarneAsada
06-17-2014, 06:26 PM
Yulia wins everything, period: a B-level event, the GP series, nationals, Euros, and then cream everybody at worlds by 15-20 points.
I expect Yuzu to dominate but Yan Han to nip at his heels, and Yan may overcome Yuzu at 2015 worlds in Shanghai, leading to resounding hometown victory.
V/T to continue and take it all, although they will seriously question motivation as they've already got the ultimate high of gold on home soil in 2014, and then make an announcement on continuing. I know they said they would go to 2018, but I doubt winning gold again in 2018 would beat winning at Sochi, unless their goal is to enter the record books by winning pairs and team again and become the all-time most-crowned Olympics pairs skaters.
W/P to battle C/L all season. They face off only at GPF and then worlds. It will be another nail-biter.
06-17-2014, 07:12 PM
I'm not understanding why so many people think Yulia will dominate. She's a good skater, but her abilities aren't that much superior to the rest of the field. Her spins are fantastic due to her flexibility, but her jumps are nothing to write home about about.
06-17-2014, 07:37 PM
Because she was 1 of most consistent skaters for the ladies, and with the exception of the individual event at the Olympics placed in the top 2 of every competition she skated in last year. And the events where she placed second: GPF & Worlds - to Mao and a close second to Adelina at Russian Nationals.
Originally Posted by lilahozi
06-17-2014, 08:09 PM
Landing 3As in my dreams!
I tend to agree with you. OTOH, it's been suggested that Yulia may have to deal with body changes that will force her to re-learn her jump technique. That could undermine her consistency. Only time will tell so we'll just have to wait and see.
Originally Posted by Amei
06-17-2014, 08:25 PM
I see Bobrova & Soloviev probably being a bigger threat to Weaver & Poje next season than the Italians. I have a feeling the Italians will be fighting just to keep a bronze medal at worlds, maybe win silver if one of B&S or W&P had some minor but fairly obvious stumbles. I cant stand B&S and found them incredibly overrated, but the fact is the judges love them, and with I&K sadly split they got the biggest gift yet in their careers (and in a career full of them that is saying something) as they will return to Russian #1 status by default which will make them very formidable again, especialy in a field missing all of D&W, V&M, I&K, and P&B now. At worlds I still think they would have found themselves down in about 5th place as the then firm Russian #2 (and the Russian fed would have been holding out hope to keep I&K together somehow then despite the split already occuring) but next year back to Russian #1 it will be back to crazy inflated scores for them, especialy with the great fortune of his back injury preventing their low finish at worlds and the further lost status from that. With the stroke of luck of his back injury forcing them to miss worlds they avoid that too, and now return having beaten all of these remaining teams in their last major outing (the Olympics) rather than having lost to several of them at worlds.
I still think W&P have a good shot at winning worlds, and I wouldnt discount C&L as a possible winner of worlds next year 100%, but I think B&S are a bigger threat to W&P and for the world gold next year than C&L right now. I also wouldnt be that surprised if C&L get pushed off altogether in favor of a team like Chock & Bates. I cant see W&P or B&S not medalling at worlds barring a disaester, or if the Russian fed pleasantly surprises by supporting one of the 2 new I&K breakoff teams as their new #1 immediately.
06-18-2014, 02:03 PM
Good points about B/S returning to Russian #1, at least for the coming year. However, the parallel situation if S/K and/or I/Z to rise would be the 2010-11 year in pairs, when V/T appeared on the scene and took the national crown from K/S. I remember watching CBC and they said that the audiences were actually packed for pairs practice due to V/T making their major international debut. If either of the new dance teams rise up and create that much buzz, then B/S would drop off in the rankings. And you're right, I can absolutely see them on the podium, but I hope they come up with some more difficult moves and drama. Both are great athletes, but together they're sort of like oatmeal - very bland. They need something like their 12/13 FD to distinguish themselves. It was high-concept and great in theory, but in execution was less than what it could have been. Otherwise, they're finished.
Originally Posted by pangtongfan
06-18-2014, 09:28 PM
I totally agree with you!!! her flexibility on spins is great, but she also travels all over the place hitting those difficult positions. Her jumps are really nothing to write home about. She was just the right girl for Russia at the right time last season, but then couldn't deliver at the Olympics.
Originally Posted by lilahozi
06-18-2014, 09:34 PM
lol. I'm starting to wonder if these are parody accounts.
Why is she a favorite? Gee maybe because she dominated last season. Her only real times not winning gold were twice to Mao in Japan where she basically has a rubber stamped win. And in the Olympic individual where she was put in a bad position of having to have 4 great programs in one Olympic games.
She was the clear star of the team event and was first in both her programs in that.
06-18-2014, 09:38 PM
I think Jason Brown will win Nationals by a wide margin.
06-18-2014, 09:40 PM
Just because we don't believe Yulia is all that, doesn't make us "parody" accounts.
Originally Posted by YLFan
She had one good season. She is yet to grow. Her "artistry" basically consists of her hauling her foot up above her head whether it goes with the music or not. Her jumps are tiny and the technique is flawed. People squeal over her because of her flexibility and the fact she's so young.