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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandpiper View Post
    Wonderful post, Risa. I agree with a lot of your comments/picks, especially Baiul, Kwan (I'm still sad she never got that Olympic gold, but her career is worth far more than that), Plush (though I find him more blunt than arrogant), Kulik, and the pairs teams. I chuckled a bit at the "so over Scott Hamilton as an announcer" part. I sometimes find him entertaining in a lolwut way, but he's as inconsistent in his commentary as Sasha was in her skating.
    Thanks, it interesting to see how many people like the same skaters you do and how many are not fans of skaters you absolutely loved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KlausA View Post
    A question to think it over and over again ... but never coming to an end ...

    Dance
    1. Davis/White (due to their impact technically) and Virtue/Moir (Mahler and their unique Carmen)
    3. Torvill/Dean
    4. Klimova/Ponomarenko
    5. Denkova/Stavisky (what they did without taking advantages of height difference! And that is it what afford Cappellini/Lanotte today!)

    There was a nice comment to be read here on Fusar-Poli/Margaglio. I couldnt agree more, her temper was unbelivible!
    Excellent choices here. I think your choices on #1-#4 are generally popular (no complaints from me that's for sure) but #5 is an inspired choice. The Bulgarians never got full respect for their efforts, but it was great to see them win back-to-back world titles in 06 / 07. Also, the comment about Fusar-Poli: she was what we call "full-court drama", over the top, like a soap opera. Watching her in the K&C was always compelling and I wondered if it was exhausting to live her life, more so than any other skater. I miss her so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandpiper View Post
    I chuckled a bit at the "so over Scott Hamilton as an announcer" part. I sometimes find him entertaining in a lolwut way, but he's as inconsistent in his commentary as Sasha was in her skating.
    Scott Hamilton is a political mouthpiece. That's why his commentary is inconsistent over the years (and even within the same competitions).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandpiper View Post
    Weren't they one of the first pairs to compete a quad twist?

    I think they deserved their win over M/D, even with Sergei's mistakes. Anyway, the win will be debated but at least both teams put in good overall routines, which is better than many other competitions where it becomes "who was less awful."
    The first pair to attemp the quod was Marina Cherkasova and Sergei Shakrai at the European Championship in 1977.
    However I don't think it was properly executed as you can see from this video

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OInB6DYemw

    Katia and Sergei executed a perfect quod during National, Worlds, European in 1987 and Skate Canada 1986.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjMQKE5Gj24

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    Ladies:
    Mao (top 1 on my list)
    Sasha (i love her spirals and spins)
    Michelle Kwan (performer on my eyes)
    Chen Lu
    Yuna ( i love her during 2008-2009 and 2009-2010 seasons and her senior debut season)

    Men
    Takashi Daisuke -love his musicality
    Kulik

    Pairs
    G/G
    Shen/Zhao

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    Ladies:
    Ekaterina Gordeeva
    Mao Asada
    Midori Ito
    Yuna Kim
    Valentina Marchei

    Pairs:
    Gordeeva/Grinkov
    Natalia/Arthur
    Berezhnaya/Sikharulidze
    Savchenko/Szolkowy

    Men:
    Daisuke Takahashi
    Yuzuru Hanyu
    Todd Eldrege
    Kurt Browning
    Oda


    Dance: don't have favs

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    I have been watching skating so many years that it is hard to pick just 5 per discipline. The following list is not in order, and my choices are driven by listing those whose performances I watch over and over on YouTube, those whose outstanding performances I was lucky enough to see live, and those I found unique, no matter how successful or unsuccessful they were.


    Dance
    Pakhomova & Gorshkov- Their performance at the 1976 Olympics was so amazing, it hooked me on ice dance for life.
    Torville & Dean- Their unison was perfect, their routines were completely unique, and their OSPs were so special that I still remember them as The Best Paso Doble ever, the best Rhumba ever, the best Blues ever, and the best 50's Rock ever.
    Davis & White-I have liked this team since they were in juniors, and they have never disappointed me. I particularly like their OD's and Sd's. They have almost always managed to portray the character of the dance beautifully (the one exception being their rumba Sd, and even then the dance was a coherent Latin club routine). Giselle and Bollywood are two of my all time favorite dances, even more remarkable since they include CD sequences seamlessly. They have a great sense of timing, and an infectious joy on the ice, coupled with blinding speed and quickness of foot.
    Rahkamo & Kokko-Every little thing they did was so interesting, and the stories they told gripping.
    Usova & Zhulin- most beautiful posture and extensions of any team ever, and gorgeous CDs.

    Pairs
    Protopopovs-best ever, always
    Berezhnaya & Sikuralidze- would be on my list if their only highlight was their Lady Caliph SP
    Shen & Zhao-great love story, a magic performance at Worlds 2003, and long term high quality
    Castelli & Shnapir-unlike anyone else, exciting, may never succeed, but I don't care. I love their Survivor SP and their Santana SP.
    Hao Zhang & partners-I just like him. Shoot me.

    Men
    Toller Cranston-Toller was one of the most unique performers of all time. His Strawberry Ice Show was remarkable. His every move was thought out and gripping.
    Brian Boitano-Both of Brian's Olympic programs are on my rewatch list, as is his skate on a glacier. He had an innate grace on the ice.
    Alexei Yagudin. Any guy who will do a routine with 2 daggers, rubber or not, has my vote for daring; His Winter SP, just Winter Wonderland.
    Rudy Galindo - I loved him in pairs, too. He and Kristi just did unprecendented things on the ice. They were the only mirror pair that ever really worked IMO. In singles, his 2 programs from 1996 were stellar-my favorite Swan Lake, as Baron Rothbart, and a lyrical Pachelbel's Canon. Amazing spins, beautiful extensions and positions, and attention to every detail.
    Jason Brown -Both at 2011 nationals and 2014 nationals, Jason had my favorite 2 programs of the whole event, while he may never win a world medal, he will always hold my attention for his musicality and joyous style. And I love the skating of his choreographer, Rohene. Jason gives the performances I always wanted to see from Rohene.

    Ladies-not my favorite discipline
    Dorothy Hamill-Dorothy only has to skate across the ice with a group of kids in an ad, and I want to watch it over again, both for the smoothness of her skating and the joy on her face
    Midori Ito-Midori was never just a jumper. Even as a tiny sprite, she could gather up an audience in the palm of one little hand. And then her jumps were the best ever.
    Debi Thomas-Debi was the best ever interview in skating. Never a dull moment-a skater whose whole personality projected beyond the boards, including her humor and irony. Her Wanda Beazel routine is a classic, as is her exhibition with Kotin. She had a great feel for rhythm, something I really appreciate.
    Elaine Zayak- Elaine made an art form of jumps, sandwiching them between moves in the field of every type.
    Michelle Kwan-Michelle could suggest so much with just small gestures. Her control of her landings was sublime.
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    Ladies.
    1. Yuna Kim - her FS at Worlds-2013 was the best I ever seen.
    2. Akiko Suzuki - so nice, but unfortunely so unstable. Her best skating of her best programs - so beautiful.
    3. Irina Slutskaya. Love her style.
    4 and 5 - these places are reserved for ladies who are now too young to solve who is best and what is best. Hope they will progress.

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    In no particular order:

    Ladies
    Mao Asada
    Yuna Kim
    Sasha Cohen
    Ashley Wagner
    Carolina Kostner

    Men
    Jeremy Abbott
    Yuzuru Hanyu
    Jason Brown
    Johnny Weir
    Kevin Reynolds

    I don't follow ice dancing or pairs skating very closely, but I always love watching Davis/White (their consistency and artistry are undeniable), Ilinykh/Katsalapov (they have great chemistry, and personally I think their professional split is a huge mistake) and the Shibutanis (I just adore their youthful energy). Being American, I'm biased towards Castelli/Shnapir (I also wrote a math paper on them once, but that's a different story) and Zhang/Bartholomay (their signature handshake is adorable) but unfortunately I can't see either pair rising to the top of their field anytime soon.

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    women
    Michelle K
    Mao
    Akiko
    Julia
    Oksana B

    Men
    Daisuke
    Johnny W
    Lambiel
    Sandhu (when he was on)
    Jason B

    Pairs
    Shen/ Zhao
    Smirnov/ Kavaguchi
    Marinan Totmianina
    Pang/ Tong

    Dance
    Belbin/ Agosto
    Davis/ White
    Virtue/ Moir
    Not sure of my spelling on these but I'm sure you know who I mean

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorispulaski View Post

    Castelli & Shnapir-unlike anyone else, exciting, may never succeed, but I don't care. I love their Survivor SP and their Santana SP.
    Hao Zhang & partners-I just like him. Shoot me.

    Men
    Toller Cranston-Toller was one of the most unique performers of all time. His Strawberry Ice Show was remarkable. His every move was thought out and gripping.

    Rudy Galindo - I loved him in pairs, too. He and Kristi just did unprecendented things on the ice. They were the only mirror pair that ever really worked IMO. In singles, his 2 programs from 1996 were stellar-my favorite Swan Lake, as Baron Rothbart, and a lyrical Pachelbel's

    Debi Thomas-Debi was the best ever interview in skating. Never a dull moment-a skater whose whole personality projected beyond the boards, including her humor and irony. Her Wanda Beazel routine is a classic, as is her exhibition with Kotin. She had a great feel for rhythm, something I really appreciate.
    Elaine Zayak- Elaine made an art form of jumps, sandwiching them between moves in the field of every type.
    The great thing about a list of favorites is that it can be so personal. We can include people who stand out to us for various reasons, not just for a quantifiable record. Skating excellence isn't just found in, say, the top three skaters per discipline of all time. There are skaters such as Toller Cranston or Elaine Zayak who commanded the ice when they were on it, whose skating kindled something in us, and who perhaps made some significant contribution even though it didn't get them to the top rank. Of the people from your post whom I've cited here, I especially love Toller Cranston (who I think was a sort of co-pathfinder for modern men's skating along with John Curry) and Debi Thomas, whose flow and innate connection to musical rhythms I also loved. I was so sorry she clutched in Calgary, because--no offense to Katarina Witt--she was a far more interesting skater than Witt.

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    Ladies only:

    Kim, Asada, Ito, Kwan, and... either Yuka Sato or Akiko Suzuki...

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    I will be the first to acknowledge my American bias. Woops. My lists also reflect the fact that I am from a younger generation of fans.

    Ladies:

    1) Ashley Wagner
    2) Sasha Cohen
    3) Alissa Czisny
    4) Michelle Kwan
    5) Carolina Kostner

    Pairs:

    1) Castille/Okolski (So. Much. Potential. 2007).
    2) Sale/Pelletier
    3) Shen/Zhao
    4) Castelli/Shnapir
    5) Totmianina/Marinin

    Dance:

    1) Davis/White
    2) Delobel/Schoenfelder
    3) Ilinykh/Katsalapov
    4) Aldridge/Eaton
    5) Pechalat/Bourzat

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    Men
    Patrick Chan
    Denis Ten
    John Curry
    Kevin Reynolds (He is always special for me!)
    Jeremy Abbott or Jeffrey Buttle

    Ladies
    Yuna Kim
    Carolina Kostner
    Akiko Suzuki
    Michelle Kwan
    Kaetlyn Osmond

    Pairs
    Savchenko/Szolkowy
    Pang/Tong

    Ice Dance
    Virtue/Moir
    Weaver/Poje
    Grishuk/Platov
    Pechalat/Bourzat

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    5? too impossible.
    John curry
    Toller
    Robin Cousins
    Scott
    Brian and Brian
    Kulik am and pro
    Wylie Pro
    Yagudin
    Plush whole career
    Kurt was the best.
    Elvis was great fun, too


    Arrrrggggg all I typed on ladies and pairs just gone so shorthand great women one can still go ooh and aah for many reasons. Sonja Henie athlete entertainer and level 8 spins. Peggy had it all as did Dorothy. Janet Lynn was the best skater and was seamless. She is a skaters skater as was yuka sato. The phenoms midori Tara and Yuna for her man sized jumps while looking princessy. Beautiful to watch were Kristii as pros and Caryn kadavy. Young Baiul is awesome. Best Swiss were the awesome Denise Bielmann and Lucinda Ruh. Just wow to watch them. The amazing champions of the new IJS are Mao and Yuna incredible for jumps and skating skills. For sheer joy Akiko and for majestic elegance the queen Caro when on. I must say the next wave of amazing will come from Russia. Kwan was consistent an athlete and gave us a great 10 years. Peerless in this respect. Mention to Rochette as best Canadian lady thus far.

    Pairs? everyone loves number 1 forever. No one will replace Katia and Sergei as kids as pros because they are forever young and beautiful and in love. She skated for him obviously. We got to watch. Thank you Two esp Sergei in heaven. Other mentions are great Russian pairs like B and S and V and T. I'll never forget Shen and zhao who will be best Chinese pair for long time. I loved Sale and Pelletier in their heyday and Brasseur and Eisler would have gold were they Russian. For what was and should have been I loved Tai and Randy. Hope we someday have a golden pair again.

    Ice dance has so much talent but I lost interest after Torvil and Dean. We had great ice dancers who couldn't get a break in the days of soviet dominance and wait your turn so I have deleted them from my greats as it was so unfair. I will fast forward to 4 teams who are great to me: Marlie, Voir, Shibs and I and K whose swan lake was so great in Sochi. For once I was happy with the dance podium though I think Marlie held back while Voir gave it all. Meryl is better with Max on wood for me. So ice dance is a discipline where the top 10 are so close. I loved p and b this year. This discipline is so about the choices made in music choreo, costume so hard to tell great from good for me. Well that's it for now. Trying to use IPad... Hard to type and correct on this little keyboard!

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