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    Skaters who revolutionized/made an impact in Figure Skating

    while some skaters might be more liked/ talked about
    it time we make a thread for the real legends / skaters who revolutioned FS

    Ladies
    * Cecilia Colledge - the original innovator of ladies FS, enough said
    * Sonja Henie - her skating records rival that of her stardom status, the epitome of female hollywood skater, made the trend for short skirt for ladies
    * Dorothy Hamil - introduced posture, elegance and refinement in ladies FS
    * Elaine Zayak - pushed the number of triples the ladies can attempt in FS, has a rule named after her thanks to that, lol
    * Midori Ito - a skater ahead of her time, still the best jumping machine
    * Yuna Kim - consistency aside, she boosted CoP relevance for 3LZ-3T and 2Axels
    * Mao Asada - her 3A attemps could be more legendary than her whole career history

    Men
    * Ulrich Salchow - the men's equivalent for Sonia Henie, World gold record holders and invented new jump
    * Dick Button - the equivalent of Colledge, introduced innovations in men's FS
    * John Curry - equivalent of Dorothy, introduced men's refinement , posture in FS
    * Elvis Stojko - the original quad jumper
    * Evgeni Plushenko - the face for 6.0 era, a man who has competed in different scoring eras
    * Yuzuru Hanyu - the face for CoP, has pushed the envelope for maximing points

    Pairs
    * the Propotovs - There will be no modern Pairs today if it werent for the Propotovs, the greatest and the prototype of the modern pairs skating
    * Mishkutenok /Dmitriev- introduced dynamism, difficulty and charisma in pairs skating
    * Berezhnaya / Sikhuralidze- showed pairs skating is elegant, refined posture that every skater should aspire
    * Shen / Zhao - introduced acrobatics in lifts, twists and pairs skating longevity can go up to where you want to go

    Ice Dance
    * Pakhomova / Gorshkov forget Torvil/Dean, it was G/P who revolutionized Ice dance, they were the prototypes of what is now Ice Dancing
    * Klimova / Ponomarenko - introduced charisma, Ice Dance is not just elements back then, they showed true Ice Dance presentation
    * Davis / White - combined dynamism, athleticism and power

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    Two names you listed stand out for me:

    - Elvis Stoiko. Brought pure athleticism and man power to the Men figure skating. The first significant figure who showed the figure skating champion does not have to be a prince in tights and white lace gloves. The true winner of 1994. Urmanov would never be able to even touch him under CoP.

    - Pakhomova/Gorshkov. They made the ice dancing the competitive sport, they brought it, they defined it. They whole competition should be named after them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CezarMart View Post
    Two names you listed stand out for me:


    - Pakhomova/Gorshkov. They made the ice dancing the competitive sport, they brought it, they defined it. They whole competition should be named after them.
    thats why I made this thread, to give tribute to real innovators
    some think Torvil/Dean are epitome of Ice Dance but they all owe it to Pakhomova / Gorshkov, heck modern Ice Dancing is

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    Chan, Takahashi and Buttle were arguably the faces of CoP where a complete, well-rounded skater who mastered all facets of skating started to be appreciated, not just the jumps. The same way Curry revolutionized the sport artistically. I would arguably add Goebel and Fernandez for their technical brilliance and mastering quads and the 3-quad freeskate, in a similar way Plushenko/Yagudin/Stojko mastered the quad in general. Of course Yagudin is the perfect blend of artistry and athleticism and his Olympic performances still stand as the best of all time (although I'd put Hanyu's Sochi SP above his).

    For ladies, Ito obviously. Kim as well given her balance of technical and artistic. Kwan for her artistry. Asada for pushing te technical envelope.

    Pairs, Shen/Zhao - they were the first to really THROW and have huge twists. Before it was all about the SBS jumps but S/Z really drew attention to other spectacular elements.

    Ice dance - D/W and V/M revolutionized how dance can be masterfully difficult and still artistically engaging. Torvill and Dean were the masters for their time and exhibited how ice dancing is an art but these two recent teams have showcased how ice dancing can be a sport, this changing the perceptions of many that ice dancing is merely theatre on ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianSkaterGuy View Post
    Chan, Takahashi and Buttle were arguably the faces of CoP where a complete,
    stop pushing skaters who not deserve to be in the list
    In No way does Chan an innovator, maybe an innovator in the number of falls

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    Are you two going at it AGAIN?


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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    stop pushing skaters who not deserve to be in the list
    In No way does Chan an innovator, maybe an innovator in the number of falls
    I must say that I would actually substitute yuzuru with chan, because he was the one that showed to the rest of the field that to be on top one should attempt the maximal difficulty possible, screw it if you were to fall...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    stop pushing skaters who not deserve to be in the listIn No way does Chan an innovator, maybe an innovator in the number of falls
    Are you talking about yourself?

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    Maybe Lambiel for the spins.

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    I think you've mentioned all skaters who deserves to be named, so I don't want to write them again but there's one name I have to repeat:
    Evgeni Plushenko-I still don't like him so much as a person but as a skater he is legendary. He had great technique for the times when he was the biggest champion, he had(and still has)his own skating style. Also is something as an icon for figure skating. People who don't like or don't watch figure skating often know him.

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    I don't want to get into an argument over specific choices, but this thread is a great way to think of skaters, and I like that you go back practically to the start of competitive skating rather than concentrating just on the recent past. Definitely Toller Cranston and Janet Lynn need to be on this list, because though they never won an international gold medal, they helped to usher in the era of more expressive skating. Cranston shares that distinction with his almost exact contemporary, John Curry, and Lynn probably can be thought of in conjunction with Peggy Fleming.

    For the ice dancers, I'll leave it to better informed people (or just more emphatic people!) to argue, except to say that Torvill and Dean most assuredly do belong on this list.

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    I don't think Davis and White or Hanyu revolutionalized skating - in fact Chan or Dai really started the complete skater or even Lambiel or Buttle. Hanyu was a follower of Chan - technical and skating skills and his skills aren't of the magnificient level of Lambiel, Buttle or chan who probably had the best skating skills and transitions for men. G and G had it all so maybe they "revolutionized skating. Gary Beacom did some amazing tricks never seen. Hydroblading by Bourne and Kraatz. I think D and W did no more for skating than V and M. Neither team really had the magic of Torvill and Dean or Klimova and Pomarenko. Shen and /zhou maybe revolutionized skating for China but not world - the Russians were doing big lifts and throws already. Duhamel and radford really pushing the envelope for big individual jumps in pairs. I agree Ito pushed the jumps and then maybe ugly and criticized as they would be under COP Surya Bonaly. Baiul maybe was the start of the youth movement - Hughes, Lipinski, Lipnskaya, Sotnikova, Gold, Nagasu, Mao, Radinova, Tuk. Brian Orser really pushed the technical elements then fire was fueled by Boitano.

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    WEll I guess Chan started the push for tech excellency and skating skills and Hanyu took it to the next step - but that is debatable I think we can say Hanyu better technicain but skating skill wise Chan wold or should win on most days. I sense Sky fly for some reason the posts tend to put down Canadian skaters = that is just an observatin as skyfly tend sto like Hanyu over Chan and Davis and White over v and m and has had several negative posts about Osmond. I am not say skyflyy is anticanadian but that is just an observation of skyflys prefernces. And we should respect they are sky fly's preferences still I see spikydurian's perspective too and I tend to agree more but really I think a lot of these posts are because we miss competitive skating lol. What's next whose hairstyle we like best. Which skater has the cutest pet?

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    Ice Dance
    Tessa and Scott & Meryl and Charlie have taken Ice Dance to new heights. They made ice dance so exciting and they helped raised the standard of dance by making those below them chase after them. From the 90s- platov, grishuk, Zhulin and Ussova and Krylova made a big impact

    For pairs- the chinese pairs program- Shen/Zhao, Pang/Tong etc. as well as russian classics like G/G and B/S
    It also must be said that Sale/Pelletier made an impact because they got caught in the 02 scandal but that is another can of worms that nobody wants to reopen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sky_fly20 View Post
    stop pushing skaters who not deserve to be in the list
    In No way does Chan an innovator, maybe an innovator in the number of falls
    Surely the point of this type of thread is for everyone to have a say about who they think deserves to be on the list, not for one poster to be able to give the yea or nay?

    What about the guy who innovated the Lutz (Alois Lutz, I have just read)? Has he been mentioned?

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