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    Quote Originally Posted by CaroLiza_fan View Post
    So, that is now TWO gorgeous skaters that have finally seen sense and ran a mile!
    Good news. This may just be for professional reasons, but it would also be good if women are catching onto this guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan O View Post
    Good news. This may just be for professional reasons, but it would also be good if women are catching onto this guy.
    This. Please this.

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    All his relationships have been voluntary unless some know differently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmyers View Post
    All his relationships have been voluntary unless some know differently.
    No meds on earth will rescue gmyers from his current disposition. If that man seduced my 17 year old daughter, they wouldn't find even a single drop of his blood. He was preparing her ultimately for the olympics. Her partner is still carrying a torch for her. He was what maybe 36 at the time, old enough to be her father and wise enough to know that the consequences could be severe. He must have known that Nikita would eventually walk away. He is low down dirty scum. Now unless he has a life changing experience he should not be allowed to coach anyone in my book. Anyone. Think about it what girl who thinks highly of herself would do such a thing, obviously something is out of whack with how she sees things with regard to romantic relationships. She was 17 people, think about that the next time you look at your teenager, tell me it could never happen to your daughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmyers View Post
    All his relationships have been voluntary unless some know differently.
    What skeeves me out about him and Elena is that he was in a position of power over her, not the age difference. Because in Russia, it was legal.
    The age difference creeps me out but not as much as the amount of power he held over her and Nikita and their careers. He could've ruined her entire career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fleeting View Post
    What skeeves me out about him and Elena is that he was in a position of power over her, not the age difference. Because in Russia, it was legal.
    The age difference creeps me out but not as much as the amount of power he held over her and Nikita and their careers. He could've ruined her entire career.
    You got it just right. He abused that power and no one it seems could convince her otherwise (I'm assuming persons must have tried here). Why she so desperately hung on to him should have been another red flag. What does a 17 year old want with someone in his position, not to mention his age? We all know what he wanted from her.

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    It's hard for us to know exactly why Morozov seems to have such power over women - we can only theorize based on what we have observed. It appears to be a combination of 2 factors: 1) He is good-looking, particularly when he was younger; 2) He is in a position of power and influence over his younger skaters.

    However, it hasn't just been young women around 18 that have been taken in by this routine, but older and independent women, as well. For example, he convinced Shae-Lynn Bourne into marrying him. It's hard for me, sitting over here in Canada, to know exactly what the deal is with this guy, but it certainly says something when a guy is only 36 years old and has already been married 3 times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaroLiza_fan View Post
    Alena Leonova Leaves Morozov
    Good for her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anyanka View Post
    I think so too. Don't get me wrong, I like Osmond, but she hasn't delivered the way Skate Canada has been wanting her to (and she'd like to improve I'm sure). If she doesn't improve she may fall by the wayside, leaving room for the next up-and-comer or an accomplished transplant. And if the Japanese men continue to have too much internal competition, their #5 or #6 nationally ranked skater may consider switching countries, especially while Canada waits to see if Nam Nguyen becomes the next Chan.
    Osmond was injured. I expect her to do well next season. I like her, she is a natural born performer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alba View Post
    Osmond was injured. I expect her to do well next season. I like her, she is a natural born performer.
    I hope so too! She's definitely engaging. Now she needs more consistency, and I hope she takes time to recover fully and not feel pressured to rush back into the swing of things.

    Anyhow, I took this topic on a tangent, let's get back to discussing Alena, shall we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bramweld View Post
    No meds on earth will rescue gmyers from his current disposition. If that man seduced my 17 year old daughter, they wouldn't find even a single drop of his blood. He was preparing her ultimately for the olympics. Her partner is still carrying a torch for her. He was what maybe 36 at the time, old enough to be her father and wise enough to know that the consequences could be severe. He must have known that Nikita would eventually walk away. He is low down dirty scum. Now unless he has a life changing experience he should not be allowed to coach anyone in my book. Anyone. Think about it what girl who thinks highly of herself would do such a thing, obviously something is out of whack with how she sees things with regard to romantic relationships. She was 17 people, think about that the next time you look at your teenager, tell me it could never happen to your daughter.
    Quote Originally Posted by fleeting View Post
    What skeeves me out about him and Elena is that he was in a position of power over her, not the age difference. Because in Russia, it was legal.
    The age difference creeps me out but not as much as the amount of power he held over her and Nikita and their careers. He could've ruined her entire career.
    17 year olds is past legal age for sex in Russia. If their was rape there'd be problem. What's the power? Programs? If he was demanding sex from Elena for things she wanted in the programs that's just rape.

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    As much as Alena Leonova is probably no ones favourite skater, she is entertaining and i enjoy watching her every time. Im glad she hasn't decided to call it quits just yet. She is my russian to root for cause i cant stand any of these russian babies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmyers View Post
    17 year olds is past legal age for sex in Russia. If their was rape there'd be problem. What's the power? Programs? If he was demanding sex from Elena for things she wanted in the programs that's just rape.
    gmyers, I really don't know how to explain to you that your coach has power over you. The coach is the one who makes decisions - where to compete, when... The coach is the one that prepares you for competition. So the coach is the most important person who can make or break skaters career. The coach is the professional that gets paid to share his skills, knowledge and experience. The coach is the person the Federation rely on that the skaters are competition ready. On the coach's word the skaters can be withdrawn from the competition. The coach is the one who either arrange choreographer for the couple, or creates programs for them. The program can also be either such a rubbish like the Ghost last year, or on the contrary a very nice program like the Schindler's list. The coach is supposed to know his skaters well and therefore he knows what is skateable for them and what isn't. So when something is not working, sometimes a little change like changing the order of elements in the program can help. Coach is usually aware of his skaters' health problems. Ilushetchkina's coach talked into media about Ilushetchkina's health problems. So disclosing them to media if a skater wants to split up with your favourite student... Doctor has no right to disclose any health problems. Pavlova and Mozer are not doctors and therefore they seem to believe that it is ok to be telling media about their skater's health problems. If Zueva spoke at length about Virtue's leg problems, the chances are that they would loose several gold medals and D/W would gain some medals, because the judges would suddenly start noticing little things... That's why the whole camp pretended that Virtue is absolutely fine! Can you see the power the coach actually has?

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    Good for Alena, hope this can do her good, even if Rukavitsin doesn't seem to me the best person to develop her artistic skills, since most of his students have weak PCS, and she really needs to work on transitions and skating skills...
    Now, who is Morozov left with except S/K?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSGMT View Post
    Good for Alena, hope this can do her good, even if Rukavitsin doesn't seem to me the best person to develop her artistic skills, since most of his students have weak PCS, and she really needs to work on transitions and skating skills...
    Now, who is Morozov left with except S/K?
    Morozov doesn't have S/K. S/K are currently with Zueva and at this moment it is not clear who will be their permanent coach. Considering that Tarasova (who has a lot of influence within Russian Federation) said to the media that she blames Morozov for the split of I/K, I can't see how the Federation would be happy to send S/K to Morozov.

    In regards to Rukavitsin, he seems to be collecting the skaters who are (relatively) older and don't seem to go anywhere and he is producing results with them. Menshov is 31 years old and at the age of 27 he won Russian nationals, and at the age of 30 he won his first medal at Europeans (bronze). Maria Artemeva also started being reasonably consistent only this last season. Although she hasn't won anything significant yet (only Cup if Nice), it is because of the fierce competition within Russian ladies. She only stood out this last season, at the age of 21 (which is quite late for a lady).

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