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    Prestige of each competition?

    Hi Im a newbie!
    I have a question!
    There are many comps in FS and major comps are
    OLY, WLD, GPF, EURO, 4CC this 5 comps no doubt.
    But how important is this each comp?
    I always think 'OLY>>>>>>WLD>>>GPF>EURO>4CC'
    Yes in regard of ranking point, EURO=4CC>GPF.
    But to skaters it would be little different I think?
    Give me your opinion pls. Sry 4 ma bad eng

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    When comparing careers of the greats, only Olympics and Worlds matter. More GPF or 4CC would never be a tiebreaker when factoring in who is better. For example, no one argues that Irina is on par with Michelle because she won 4 GPFs while Michelle only won 1. I think it's fair too, because Worlds is where everyone is trying to peak, so you get to see the world's best when they are (presumably) in peak condition.

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    I think Euros might still be more prestigious than the Grand Prix final. It has tradition and history going for it. In contrast, Four Continents has still not really found its footing, with many top skaters opting out.

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    Yes, GPF should have more importance than Euros for example, but it actually doesn't, since both GPF and 4CC are relatively "new" competitions

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    Strictly speaking, 4CC should have greater prestige than nationals, but for countries with extremely deep fields (eg. Japan), I am inclined to believe that the balance is shifted in the other direction (for the skaters, at least).

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    Um..All European skaters think Euro>>>Gpf?
    And I also have a question. Why Mr.Plushenko participate WC only 6times? His longevity is well known for everyone..But why he participated EURO far more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tompson View Post
    Um..All European skaters think Euro>>>Gpf?
    And I also have a question. Why Mr.Plushenko participate WC only 6times? His longevity is well known for everyone..But why he participated EURO far more?
    Mainly because of his injuries and because Euro were before olympics, while world were after the oly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    I think Euros might still be more prestigious than the Grand Prix final. It has tradition and history going for it. In contrast, Four Continents has still not really found its footing, with many top skaters opting out.
    The most of the skaters uses GP to win money and to test their programs, which most of the time haven't reached their potential.
    GP is too much an invitational, seeded things were the luck plays a great role, so those getting to GPF are not always the best 6 skaters, but amixture between the best and those where the tactic of the federations played a great role. GPF is also not so releveant, because many skaters didn't peaked so early in the season.

    Euro is an open competition, all against all. The federations tryes to send the best they have, so the competiton is always there, even if one year or other, for a discipline is very clear who will win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnsaneLily87 View Post
    Olympics
    Worlds
    GPF
    Euro
    4CC
    National competitions
    Assorted GP events
    Senior B's
    This is spot on but I wish it were:

    Worlds
    GPF
    Euros/4CC
    Olympics
    GP event
    Nationals
    Senior B

    That's my level of interest. With the exception of Russian Nationals probably worthy of honorable mention and arguably a top three event at least IMO.

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    Olympics
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    The prestige of Nationals varies in the country. Compare Japan or Russia or the United States where it's often difficult for a single skater to dominate because the field is comparatively deep to countries like Italy or Great Britain, which often only has one or two skaters that dominate the country.

    Otherwise:
    Olympics (above Worlds as it's an only every four years thing, and you must often show longevity for your country to send you)
    Worlds
    Euros
    GPF
    4CC
    GP or Nationals depending on country's depth
    Senior B

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mathman View Post
    I think Euros might still be more prestigious than the Grand Prix final. It has tradition and history going for it. In contrast, Four Continents has still not really found its footing, with many top skaters opting out.
    That is the main problem with 4CC, even the federation don't take it as seriosuly as the european countries takes Euro. They send seldom their best, but those to whom they want to give experience, while in Europe normally the best ones are going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aschiutza View Post
    That is the main problem with 4CC, even the federation don't take it as seriosuly as the european countries takes Euro. They send seldom their best, but those to whom they want to give experience, while in Europe normally the best ones are going.
    exactly, also attribute that to location and time difference where skaters have to constantly travel on a longer distance
    4CC hasn't reached yet the prestige of Euros, US and Canad mostly send their 2nd tier or skaters they want experience

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    I would put..

    Olympics
    Worlds
    GPF
    GP
    Euros
    4CC
    Senior B
    Nationals

    I would put Senior B in front of Nationals since it's still an international competition.

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