2013-2014 Programs by Discipline

Mrs. P · Aug 18, 2013

dorispulaski said:
Bobrova & Soloviev's SD

SD Don't Mean a Thing (If It Ain't Got That Swing); I Will Wait For You; Swing Baby by Park Jin Young
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aItNp2myYE&feature=c4-overview&list=UUjaUiznBS9O3SeqwqlIc4UQ

Interesting that they're using the music cut from Park Jin Young, who is a well-known music producer in Korea (he also runs one of the three major music management companies in company called JYP (his initials obviously and what people call him over there). Am curious where they came across his music...

Here's JYP performing the song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMxm0XPObzY

dorispulaski · Aug 18, 2013

It wasn't published, but I know the song because of the silly line "shing, shing, shing my baby" It comes right up when you're looking for lyrics. They aren't the first to use that song. There were a couple of teams last year that used the Park Jin Young cut.

LeCygne · Aug 18, 2013

I really liked Christina's LP. It's intense and dark at the beginning but becomes lyrical toward the middle and really opens up by the end. It's elegantly choreographed and is more emotionally complex than something like Gracie's Sleeping Beauty. I wonder how they came up with the idea for this music too.. it actually suits her well I think, better than the tango she had before, which always looked like she was trying too hard to play a character. It seems like she was concentrating on choreography rather than the jumps this time out, but nice 3T-3T at the beginning! And her 2a has really improved as well. If she can get the 3F-3T back in her programs, she'll be all set technically. I can see this program becoming something quite special by Nationals time.

FlattFan · Aug 18, 2013

icedinn said:
bobrova soloviev fd's are AWSOME. Zhulin is a genius.

I can't detect sarcasm very well.

bramweld · Aug 18, 2013

FlattFan said:
I can't detect sarcasm very well.

We haven't seen a complete FD from either of his pairs. Me thinks he's hedging his bets until he sees what others bring to the table. Not a good sign in my book. Man up I'd say put it out all there and quit "jibber jabbering" about how insanely complicated the B/S FD is. Right now B/S look ragged, so what's the real excuse? Was or is either of them injured? Me thinks I'll reserve saying anything more until their first competition. His best work IMHO was with I/K. I think despite all his mutterings to the contrary he misses them dearly :biggrin:

If you look back at the CD I/K did at 2010 worlds and the OD they did in 2009 you could only imagine how fantastic a SD collaboration, with him as their coach, would look today. Unfortunately maybe too much has been said on both sides to ever see a reconciliation between the two

aftertherain · Aug 19, 2013

jiggs said:
lots of people writing about her 3f3t but all i could see in that FP was a 3t3t. did she do 3f3t in the short?

Yeah, I thought that opening combination was a 3T-3T in the long, not a 3F-3T.

Music is not what I expected for her. I don't think it fits very well.

Krislite · Aug 19, 2013

Patrick Chan's new LP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=4uKmpH3IzmE

He doubled/stepped out of most of his triples, but he did land a couple of nice quads at the beginning. Not sure about the program yet...

sky_fly20 · Aug 19, 2013

Mirunna · Aug 19, 2013

sky_fly20 said:
Adelina Sotnikova FS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER1n5XiJ5gg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w7u-uONFsg

Isn't this the music she skated to when she won Jr. Worlds?
I liked her Sp, it was full of personality. Her Lp, not so much. I understand why she's going for the 3Lz-3Loop. She can't rotate the 3T as the second jump, so might as well get an "<" to a 3L than to a 3T. It brings more points.
Elena is growing into something special. She looked great in the black outfit and her jumps, as others said, looked improved.
Julia is also growing artistically and it's nice to see her in shape.
Anna grew a bit since the last time we saw her. Her legs are a bit more muscular. Still looking gorgeous
B/S FD is a snooze-fest, lots of arm movement, very dramatic, Kustarova's style. I only liked the beginning. From then on, it's boring. Too bad, I liked their SD.
M/K's FD is a bit better IMO

karne · Aug 19, 2013

Krislite said:
Patrick Chan's new LP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=4uKmpH3IzmE

He doubled/stepped out of most of his triples, but he did land a couple of nice quads at the beginning. Not sure about the program yet...

I'm now convinced he doesn't have an original bone in his body.

FSGMT · Aug 19, 2013

Well, that looked like the second half of Adelina's FS: if I'm right, they moved the 2A+3T to the second half and the loop to the first half, and she's still planning two flips... Her layout could be 3Lz+3Lo/3F/3Lo/2A+3T/3F+2T+2Lo/3S/2A
The choreography, however, is wonderful!!

Sophie-Anna · Aug 19, 2013

What is the name of the Genya's FP music, please?

Willemijn · Aug 19, 2013

Well, did Chan choose Vivaldi's Winter winking at Yagudin? I think he should get some lessons with Yagudin, to get the sparkle in his performance.

thinspread · Aug 19, 2013

Krislite said:
Patrick Chan's new LP: http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=4uKmpH3IzmE

He doubled/stepped out of most of his triples, but he did land a couple of nice quads at the beginning. Not sure about the program yet...

I think it's a nice program. Looks demanding and difficult to go clean. It doesn't look busy, but constantly flowing. I wish it had some more punch or climax, though.

karne · Aug 19, 2013

Sophie-Anna said:
What is the name of the Genya's FP music, please?

Who?

thinspread said:
I think it's a nice program. Looks demanding and difficult to go clean. It doesn't look busy, but constantly flowing. I wish it had some more punch or climax, though.

Well then what's the bloody point? If he just unloaded a tiny bit he might actually be able to go clean and then people might not have so much of a problem with his wins. It gets really annoying when he just goes splat splat splat and then people justify his win by crying "but it was so difficult!".

There's a happy medium somewhere between doing what Lysacek did (watering down the tech content so much just to go clean) and then going ridiculous (by loading the program so heavy that it's impossible to skate clean). Chan hasn't found it yet. He leans too much to too much content. He just throws the kitchen sink at it and hopes something sticks.

thinspread · Aug 19, 2013

karne said:
Well then what's the bloody point? If he just unloaded a tiny bit he might actually be able to go clean and then people might not have so much of a problem with his wins. It gets really annoying when he just goes splat splat splat and then people justify his win by crying "but it was so difficult!".

There's a happy medium somewhere between doing what Lysacek did (watering down the tech content so much just to go clean) and then going ridiculous (by loading the program so heavy that it's impossible to skate clean). Chan hasn't found it yet. He leans too much to too much content. He just throws the kitchen sink at it and hopes something sticks.

Let's give it some time. The program is for the freakin' Olympics and I think he will find a way. I don't think he will water down the technical content, but he has a lot of time to tweak the program here and there to improve the chance for a clean skate. Besides, it's still summer and I don't expect him to be super sharp. As it looks now, the program asks for a great amount of stamina, so he needs to work on that too.

Sophie-Anna · Aug 19, 2013

karne said:
Who?

Well then what's the bloody point? If he just unloaded a tiny bit he might actually be able to go clean and then people might not have so much of a problem with his wins. It gets really annoying when he just goes splat splat splat and then people justify his win by crying "but it was so difficult!".

There's a happy medium somewhere between doing what Lysacek did (watering down the tech content so much just to go clean) and then going ridiculous (by loading the program so heavy that it's impossible to skate clean). Chan hasn't found it yet. He leans too much to too much content. He just throws the kitchen sink at it and hopes something sticks.

Alexei Genya FS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w7u-uONFsg

FSGMT · Aug 19, 2013

I probably missed it: is there a video of Julia's FS?

96skiluvr · Aug 19, 2013

Do we know anything yet about Ilinykh/Katsalapov's programs?
I'm scared in a bad way to know what Morozov is making them do this year.

SkateFan66 · Aug 19, 2013

karne said:
There's a happy medium somewhere between doing what Lysacek did (watering down the tech content so much just to go clean) and then going ridiculous (by loading the program so heavy that it's impossible to skate clean). Chan hasn't found it yet. He leans too much to too much content. He just throws the kitchen sink at it and hopes something sticks.

If Lysacek 'watered down' his technical content 'so much' like you claim, then how did he beat Plushenko in the technical mark at the Olympics?

2013-2014 Programs by Discipline

Mrs. P

Uno, Dos, twizzle!

dorispulaski

Wicked Yankee Girl

LeCygne

FlattFan

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bramweld

aftertherain

Krislite

sky_fly20

Match Penalty

Mirunna

karne

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FSGMT

Sophie-Anna

Willemijn

thinspread

karne

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thinspread

Sophie-Anna

FSGMT

96skiluvr

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