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    As much as people don't want Kovtun on the podium/World team, he should make the World team with Voronov if Russia wants to have even a remote shot at obtaining 3 spots for the 2016 Worlds. I mean, the guy came 4th at Worlds. Voronov has been abysmal at Worlds, but has gained consistency the last season, and could crack the top 10. I don't have much confidence in Gachinski at this point.

    Ladies (obviously really difficult to predict):
    1. Lipnitskaia
    2. Radionova
    3. Sotnikova

    Men:
    1. Kovtun
    2. Voronov
    3. Menshov (although Pitkeev might surprise)

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    Quote Originally Posted by LRK View Post
    I'm curious... I don't follow juniors, but I liked what (very, very little) I've seen of Petrov. What do the more knowledgeable on this forum think of his chances going forward?
    He has to develop a lot, but i like that he has personality, hie ex was the most engaging from the men at the junior world. I think in 3-4 years he will be very good if he keeps his motivation.

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    My prediction:
    1.Elena
    2.Julia
    3.Adelina

    My ideal podium:
    1.Elena
    2.Anna
    3.Adelina

    Anyway, it's not fair that only 3 go to the worlds...

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    im wondering if one of the new ice dance couples will get into the podium, bronze could be a huge achievement.
    pairs is pretty obvious with v/t and s/k in the top (unless some serious meltdown happens) and maybe a/m can get bronze.
    in ladies so much can happen, like they are all really young and puberty/growth spurts can scramble the podium a bit... and maybe sotnikova isnt even there, and of she is then she wil probably get 1 or 2. and i hope pogo will be in the podium, she should really think about competing foe another country if this season doesnt work for her.
    men idk.

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    Hmm I could see a couple potential country switches, given the insane depth and talent within the Russian ladies. I can definitely see Nikol Gosviani skating for Georgia (apparently her last name is Georgian). Also, Pogorilaya may want to consider switching to Ukraine - both of her parents of from Ukraine (per her Wikipedia) and her last name also suggests Ukrainian heritage. While she's towards the top of Russian ladies right now, once Proklova-Sakhanovich-Sotskova-Medvedeva become senior eligible, Pogo may have a tough time making teams in Russia, whereas she'd basically be guaranteed a spot on the Ukrainian team. While I know that the Russian competition will push everyone, her weaknesses may catch up with her/she may get passed. Something for her to consider.
    Other than that, Russian nationals is going to be CRAZY GOOD once this current crop all become senior - Lipnitskaya, Sotnikova, Tuktamysheva, Radionova, Pogorilaya, Gosviani, Medvedeva, Sakhanovich, Proklova, and Sotskova will all likely be worthy of a spot, and only 3 max out of those 10 will be able to go.

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    Yes but what will happen if Ukraine becomes Russian again? Stopped following news when I read Jew had to register in Ukraine. OT but I have so much on my plate, I block world news mostly right now as it is so crazy upsetting. Anyway, God Bless Ukraine...certainly great talents come from there in FS anyway.

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    Back to Guesses, I think Anna will be a huge rival to Adelina with Julia and Elena. They are all off the chart athletic. It depends I think on who has a good program and look. Julia had the best this year. Sochi was sad as people mioight have accepted Julia as golden over beloved, mature Kim. I wish them all better programs.

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    Nice to see our medias lies and brainwashing is working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skateluvr View Post
    Yes but what will happen if Ukraine becomes Russian again? Stopped following news when I read Jew had to register in Ukraine. OT but I have so much on my plate, I block world news mostly right now as it is so crazy upsetting. Anyway, God Bless Ukraine...certainly great talents come from there in FS anyway.
    Oh, god! Please, don't believe the brainwash you are being introduced to. Just a piece of advice: don't watch the news. USA tries to look so innocent in this situation, while they are one of the main characters in this conflict. (just to let you know, i have 3 different sources where i can get my picture on this situation: Russian news and TV, Estonian one(pro USA politics) and the Ukranians living in both Western and Eastern parts)

    Back to the discussion of Pogo changing the country. I doubt it as she said she wouldn't want to change to a country with less competiton+she grew up in Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karne View Post
    Wow. I had no idea that only the ladies competed at Russian Nationals.

    For men, I am hoping:

    1. Gachinski
    2. Menshov (these two can be swapped if needs must)
    3. Voronov

    with Sokolovskaya the Grimm Reaper as the coach
    I don't think so

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    Quote Originally Posted by 96skiluvr View Post
    Also, Pogorilaya may want to consider switching to Ukraine - both of her parents of from Ukraine (per her Wikipedia) and her last name also suggests Ukrainian heritage.
    Anna after Worlds: "I do not consider that alternative, because the results go down when a sportsman begins to skate for the country with weaker competition. Breakdown begins as a motivation disappears. You need no effort to enter the team."
    Taking into account current political situation it would be even more difficult. Juicy scandal is not in the interests of her.

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    I highly doubt that she would switch when they now have a very anti Russian government. Maybe down the road will sell out if desperate but no time soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhodium View Post
    Anna after Worlds: "I do not consider that alternative, because the results go down when a sportsman begins to skate for the country with weaker competition. Breakdown begins as a motivation disappears. You need no effort to enter the team."
    Taking into account current political situation it would be even more difficult. Juicy scandal is not in the interests of her.
    There's also the question of funding. I don't think the Ukrainian skating feds have that much money. Aljona left ten years ago because of it, Tatiana V had no problems switching to Russia after she split with Stas, and I assume that Siobhan H-C likely funded a lot of her training and associated expenses through her family (they're wealthy from what I understand).

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    Quote Originally Posted by skateluvr View Post
    What will it look like? What a horse race for ladies singles. It is exciting to see Anna, Sot, Julia, and Elena plus more coming up. Liza Leonova are not done.

    What are your guesses for the pecking order this new season and why?
    I have no idea. It's unpredictable, IMO, but you would think Yulia, Adelina, Elena in any order.

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    So many people are writing off Kovtun, but I don't mind. After the Worlds he talked about improving his endurance, choreography and increasing difficulty for next season. Unless he has a major disaster at Nationals he should make the team.

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