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    Zhang and Bartholomay Withdraw from GP; split

    The ISU website confirming that Z/B have scratched from their GP assignments, pretty much confirming the rumors that they've ended their partnership picked up steamearlier this week.

    http://isuprod.blob.core.windows.net...ed-july-10.pdf

    While nothing surprises me really in pairs this season, the incredibly late timing of this split does. I wonder what happened. They were ticking upward, making the Olympics unexpectedly and with a very good shot at the 2015 World team (and probably at least co-favorites for the US pairs title) once C/S and D/C were out of the equation.

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    So, it is basically Scimeca/Knierim all alone as US #1 this year? (Interesting that Berton/Hotarek are still listed in the GP entries )

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    Wow, saw all the chatter in the other forum, but was hoping against hope; I don't generally follow pairs, but they actually seed to work well together, even without "big" elements. And Nate is a homeboy for me (go Newtown Knights! . Sheesh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSGMT View Post
    So, it is basically Scimeca/Knierim all alone as US #1 this year? (Interesting that Berton/Hotarek are still listed in the GP entries )
    I don't know what that means other than USFS obviously communicated with the ISU in the past few days. In addition to the Z/B big, Lam has also scratched and Cannuscio/McManus and Razzano have received SA spots. Italy just may not have confirmed/updated anything yet. I'll be surprised if we see B/H but stranger things have happened.

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    Arghhhhhhhhhh I hate US pairs. It is impossible to invest because they pretty much ALL just up and do this.

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    Is it possible that Z/B had an injury? I find it really weird that they would just up and split now, after the success they had last season. Guess I'll be looking for an official announcement. Happy for the skaters newly assigned to Skate America! As much as I hate to say it, I'm glad Lam won't be using that spot at Russia. She had a really poor performance at nationals (I think finished second to last) and I think there are other skaters in the US or other countries who deserve a chance at their 1st GP assignment or for someone who has one assignment to get a second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimplyAFan View Post
    Is it possible that Z/B had an injury? I find it really weird that they would just up and split now, after the success they had last season. Guess I'll be looking for an official announcement. Happy for the skaters newly assigned to Skate America! As much as I hate to say it, I'm glad Lam won't be using that spot at Russia. She had a really poor performance at nationals (I think finished second to last) and I think there are other skaters in the US or other countries who deserve a chance at their 1st GP assignment or for someone who has one assignment to get a second.
    Its of course possible but there have also been heavy rumors that he's trying out with Gretchen Donlan from a poster on FSU who is usually pretty on point with SCoB rumors. I tend to think they have indeed split although I agree that it doesn't make much sense. But neither did the splits of a lot of other teams this season.

    ITA on Lam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flutzy13 View Post
    Its of course possible but there have also been heavy rumors that he's trying out with Gretchen Donlan from a poster on FSU who is usually pretty on point with SCoB rumors. I tend to think they have indeed split although I agree that it doesn't make much sense. But neither did the splits of a lot of other teams this season.

    ITA on Lam.
    Why would he try out with Donlan? I love Donlan, but she can't land a jump to save her life. The only advantage to her over Felicia is that she has slightly better lines (but much worse speed) and is one inch shorter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tulosai View Post
    Why would he try out with Donlan? I love Donlan, but she can't land a jump to save her life. The only advantage to her over Felicia is that she has slightly better lines (but much worse speed) and is one inch shorter.
    Agree although in context, no one seems to know why the split happened or who initiated it. There was no hint of the idea that he split with Felicia for a tryout with Gretchen. Just that he was now trying out with her or had done so recently.

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    I noticed yesterday that Felicia retweeted a quote from another source: "For every door that closes, opportunity is knocking somewhere close by. For every ending, there is a new beginning." It briefly crossed my mind at the time that maybe something was happening with her partnership with Bartholomay but dismissed the idea because it didn't make sense (I don't follow other FS forums).

    If it is true, I find it disappointing. Not only because they had a shot at the US championships this year but also because I thought they had a nice rapport and friendship on and off the ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flutzy13 View Post
    Agree although in context, no one seems to know why the split happened or who initiated it. There was no hint of the idea that he split with Felicia for a tryout with Gretchen. Just that he was now trying out with her or had done so recently.
    Yeah, I didn't mean to sound like I doubt you but this is all just too bizarre to me. They were on the rise. I also thought Grechen had retired. I guess this is all still rumors at this point. I feel frustrated so I think I am going to step back and not say anything else for now except for that, while I clearly do find this maddening, I do hope everyone involved is able to find a happy and workable solution for them going forward.

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    I saw the rumors and it made me sad. I'm sure they have their reasons, whatever they may be, and I wish them both the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tulosai View Post
    Arghhhhhhhhhh I hate US pairs. It is impossible to invest because they pretty much ALL just up and do this.
    Totally agree. So frustrating. I guess Haven Denney and her partner will have to bring it up a few notches for us. Sheesh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tulosai View Post
    Arghhhhhhhhhh I hate US pairs. It is impossible to invest because they pretty much ALL just up and do this.
    This is exactly my sentiment. I am so frustrated with the situation, and I had especially liked Z/B after their buoyant performance at Nationals. Very disappointing.

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    One thing I have noticed about Z/B, though is that their lifts were just adequate and every once in awhile he actually missed a lift, which is a huge deduction. Everything they did was no better than average, so that even when they skated squeaky clean their marks weren't anywhere near as high as Castelli/Shnapir with mistakes and falls.

    If he is switching to Donlan I don't see any major improvement for him as Felicia is a much, much better jumper and better at landing throws. Donlan is elegant in lifts but that won't help if he misses the lift the way he sometimes did with Felicia.

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