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Thread: How many years to make an Olympic level skater? And other questions

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    Not sure if the age they started skating at had anything to do with them being (relatively) lacking in quads. Too many factors go into that. Anyway, opening poster was asking 'Olympic level' not whether they could medal nowadays. Johhny and Evan were Olympians, even if neither of them was at the technical forefront of their sport.

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    At the risk of being misunderstood, I'm going to say something different than the others because I'm a little confused by the question, too. You can go to youtube and find children who are two and three years old doing quite well on ice skates, but parents don't make Olympians and those who have that goal in mind tend to put good parenting lower on their priority list.

    When a child is crying and the parent yelling that they've spent too much time and money on a sport to let the child quit, they have an agenda they shouldn't have. And for all the times I've seen this at our local skating rink and gym, there is only one person we know in those two groups who made the U.S. National team. It was in men's gymnastics and he then won bronze at the Pan Am Championships. Others may have done well in their sport in college, but none of the little Olympians these parents thought they were raising, and coaches said they were coaching, made it to the Olympic level.

    Apart from gymnastics and figure skating, the one Olympian we know (Sochi) never ever ever wanted to quit doing what she was doing, which was playing ice hockey. Her parents didn't push her, they just supported her in doing what she loves.

    Expose your child to everything, let them decide what they love and then support them in their effort. Nothing matters more than the relationship between you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandpiper View Post
    Not sure if the age they started skating at had anything to do with them being (relatively) lacking in quads. Too many factors go into that. Anyway, opening poster was asking 'Olympic level' not whether they could medal nowadays. Johhny and Evan were Olympians, even if neither of them was at the technical forefront of their sport.
    I agree, whether Johnny or Evan could medal now is irrelevant. They were both two-time Olympians....Dick Button & Scott Hamilton could not medal today either. Moreover, while Lysacek was not at the technical forefront of his sport, he was a World Champion and an Olympic Champion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkateFan66 View Post
    I agree, whether Johnny or Evan could medal now is irrelevant.
    Regarding Johnny yes it is especialy irrelevant considering he wasnt even close to a medal ever in his own time either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangtongfan View Post
    Regarding Johnny yes it is especialy irrelevant considering he wasnt even close to a medal ever in his own time either.
    He was sitting in 2nd after the SP in 2006. He blew it in the LP, but 5th overall and positioned to win a medal isn't bad.

    I would have also had him ahead of Chan in 2010 and ahead of Takahashi (the bronze medalist) and Chan in the FS, arguably ahead of Lambiel in the FS too.

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    Gracie Gold started at 8. I believe Polina Edmunds started at 3 or 4. I think Ashley Wagner started at 6 or 7.

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    4-12 at most

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianSkaterGuy View Post
    He was sitting in 2nd after the SP in 2006. He blew it in the LP, but 5th overall and positioned to win a medal isn't bad.

    I would have also had him ahead of Chan in 2010 and ahead of Takahashi (the bronze medalist) and Chan in the FS, arguably ahead of Lambiel in the FS too.
    While Johnny isn't the best skater of his era, he's still a commendable Olympic-level athlete. He really was poised to get a medal in Torino. Even after he skated his watered-down LP, the Eurosport commentators thought he had a good chance to get on the podium, considering how the other guys skated. I think everyone was pretty confused back in '06 over the new scoring system anyway. It appears to have affected Weir more badly than others. Ultimately, I felt like he made for a better 6.0 skater (and he didn't have the tech content of Plushenko or pre-2010 Brian Joubert to muscle his way through COP).

    He should've been ahead of Chan in Vancouver, no question. And I give him serious props for being one of like, three, people who stayed on their feet throughout the LP.

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    Michael Weiss started a 9. I think men can start later since they tend to peak later. The difficulty required in men's skating requires more physical strength which most do not gain have until after puberty.

    However, the ladies are fighting against puberty. For the most part, if a girl does not have a jump before puberty, she will not get it after puberty.

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    Im curious when the Russian girls began....ill bet not older than 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skateluvr View Post
    Im curious when the Russian girls began....ill bet not older than 3.
    Reading around I would say almost all of them started skating when they were 3-4 year old, so pretty much the same age as every other top skater... Iwould say the difference lays in a different training method than anything else

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