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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleLotte29 View Post
    Yeah, me too. I hope it wille be true. However, I've once read about her alleged partnership with some Ukrainian skater. I don't think it's a good idea - mainly because of this whole Ukraine-Russia conflict which may affects their results. And I don't think Daria Popova needs anymore "sensations".
    Andrei Novoselov trains in Nina Mozer's school. It would be quite bizarre if they stayed there, I think. You know what I mean - Bruno in Steuer's school, Daria in Mozer's?
    The difference is that Bruno got one of the strongest female pair partners in the world, whereas Daria got an average (or under-average) male partner, so we won't be talking about any rivalry in the near future.

    I am more curious about the rivalry between the pairs Davankova-Enbert against Bazarova-Deputat and also Bazarova-Deputat against Larionov with his new partner (sorry forgot her surname). In both those cases it is Vasiliev against Mozer. Vasiliev has an advantage of having the time and energy to put into his only pair, whereas Mozer has advantage with funding and probably a better group of specialists to help her group.

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    The difference is that Bruno got one of the strongest female pair partners in the world, whereas Daria got an average (or under-average) male partner, so we won't be talking about any rivalry in the near future.

    I am more curious about the rivalry between the pairs Davankova-Enbert against Bazarova-Deputat and also Bazarova-Deputat against Larionov with his new partner (sorry forgot her surname). In both those cases it is Vasiliev against Mozer. Vasiliev has an advantage of having the time and energy to put into his only pair, whereas Mozer has advantage with funding and probably a better group of specialists to help her group.
    Certainly. I'm not talking about serious rivalry beetween Popova/Novoselov and Savchenko/Massot, just about the fact they are in totaly opposite "camps". You're right - competition Mozer-Vasiliev would be interesting. Strictly speaking, Vasiliev has 2 pairs in team, unless Della Monica/Guarise has changed their coach.
    I've written somewhere that is a fight of two absolutely and entirely different coaching style. Mozer base her training on rivalry and Vassiliev on attention given to each skater. What makes their "contest" even more interesting are all those Mukhortova-Vasiliev stories

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleLotte29 View Post
    Certainly. I'm not talking about serious rivalry beetween Popova/Novoselov and Savchenko/Massot, just about the fact they are in totaly opposite "camps". You're right - competition Mozer-Vasiliev would be interesting. Strictly speaking, Vasiliev has 2 pairs in team, unless Della Monica/Guarise has changed their coach.
    I've written somewhere that is a fight of two absolutely and entirely different coaching style. Mozer base her training on rivalry and Vassiliev on attention given to each skater. What makes their "contest" even more interesting are all those Mukhortova-Vasiliev stories
    I think Vasiliev got married recently (within last year or something like that) so Mukhortova would be now 'old news'. It was not only Mukhortova, before her it was Totmianina (also his student). Let's hope that he likes only blondes and Vera is not his type. Perhaps Gerboldt...?

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    I think Vasiliev got married recently (within last year or something like that) so Mukhortova would be now 'old news'. It was not only Mukhortova, before her it was Totmianina (also his student). Let's hope that he likes only blondes and Vera is not his type. Perhaps Gerboldt...?
    I hope not :P I heard about Totmianina, but Mukhortova's story is "spicer" because of her partnership with Trankov - their results, lack of fit to each other and so on. Vera is so pretty, I've recently seen photo of her without make-up, she looks lovely. I hope she's not in his type :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleLotte29 View Post
    I hope not :P I heard about Totmianina, but Mukhortova's story is "spicer" because of her partnership with Trankov - their results, lack of fit to each other and so on. Vera is so pretty, I've recently seen photo of her without make-up, she looks lovely. I hope she's not in his type :P
    Actually, I find more intriguing the story between him and Totmianina, because weirdly enough, the relationship did not negatively impact on Totmianina-Marinin's relationship and their competitive results, contrary to what one would expect. The relationship between him and Mukhortova had the outcome one would expect; Mukhortova-Trankov's results were affected and the relationship between Mukhortova-Trankov - if look could kill, they would both be dead. I am more curious how he made it work if the first case and what he did different that it did not work in the second case. Saying that, Mukhortova-Trankov may have hated each other even before they came to him, so it may not all be his fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden411 View Post
    New pair:
    Britney Simpson / Matthew Penasse
    As indicated in his tweet of Jun 20 (retweeted by @SarahandDrew):
    One more international pair?
    She is from USA, he is from Canada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden411 View Post

    Meanwhile, in other "news" , seems that Mary Beth Marley just tweeted about visiting Colorado Springs at the moment. Inquiring minds ...
    I've given up on MBM's tweets. They always sound so promising and then come to absolutely nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanca View Post
    Actually, I find more intriguing the story between him and Totmianina, because weirdly enough, the relationship did not negatively impact on Totmianina-Marinin's relationship and their competitive results, contrary to what one would expect. The relationship between him and Mukhortova had the outcome one would expect; Mukhortova-Trankov's results were affected and the relationship between Mukhortova-Trankov - if look could kill, they would both be dead. I am more curious how he made it work if the first case and what he did different that it did not work in the second case. Saying that, Mukhortova-Trankov may have hated each other even before they came to him, so it may not all be his fault.
    Even on the NBC feed (you can find it on YouTube), the commentators said how much Masha and Max hated each other! That was certainly intriguing. And I know someone who worked the pairs event in Vancouver who confirmed that ... yes, their fights were just plain UGLY backstage.

    I was really glad when Max joined up with Tanya.

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    (New - means at least one partner of well-known split couples or well-known single skater)

    Split

    Dance:
    Isabella TOBIAS / Deividas STAGNIUNAS
    Ekaterina RIAZANOVA / Ilia TKACHENKO
    Elena ILINYKH / Nikita KATSALAPOV
    Victoria SINITSINA / Ruslan ZHIGANSHIN
    Tanja KOLBE / Stefano CARUSO

    Who else?
    Justyna PLUTOWSKA / Peter GERBER are no longer training together.

    Justyna unexpectedly decided to quit in early May and move back to Poland for personal reasons.

    I guess she may become well known for not knowing what she wants as this is NOT the first time she has walked away form a great opportunity.

    Peter is actively looking for a new partner with a Polish Citizenship from US or Canada; currently there is no one in Poland that he could pair up with.

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    I guess she may become well known for not knowing what she wants as this is NOT the first time she has walked away form a great opportunity.
    What else situation do you mean? It's so depressing that they decided to split, both Justyna and Peter seemed to be determined and very fastly developing. When I saw them last season, I was so glad that we have anybody better than Zvorigina and Bernadowski. And now we returned to begining. So sad. And Peter is very talented, I hope he's gonna find somebody soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleLotte29 View Post
    What else situation do you mean?
    Before she started skating with Peter, Justyna had an opportunity to train in Moscow with someone else. The training arrangements and accommodations were set, terms agreed upon. She went, skated for a day or two and came back to Poland. She didn't like it there.

    The sad part here is that it's not that THEY decided to split. That's just it... She went to Poland for Easter and told Peter she is not coming back just four days before her scheduled flight back to Detroit. Pairs split up all the time and for different reasons, that's absolutely understandable. It's just the way she chose to do this was quite nasty.

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    The sad part here is that it's not that THEY decided to split. That's just it... She went to Poland for Easter and told Peter she is not coming back just four days before her scheduled flight back to Detroit. Pairs split up all the time and for different reasons, that's absolutely understandable. It's just the way she chose to do this was quite nasty.
    Yeah, that's quite awful of her :P I really can't understand her behaviour - if she really has anything better to do than figure skating, that's her bussiness but I don't think it was the proper way to inform her partner about it. They had a progress this season what makes her decision even more unbelievable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by POZNANIANKA View Post
    Justyna PLUTOWSKA / Peter GERBER are no longer training together.

    Justyna unexpectedly decided to quit in early May and move back to Poland for personal reasons.

    I guess she may become well known for not knowing what she wants as this is NOT the first time she has walked away form a great opportunity.

    Peter is actively looking for a new partner with a Polish Citizenship from US or Canada; currently there is no one in Poland that he could pair up with.
    Is it bad if my mind instantly went to Agnes?
    Maybe skating with someone else and having someone to lean on would help her a lot. Who knows if she knows anything about the dance discipline though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fleeting View Post
    Is it bad if my mind instantly went to Agnes?
    Maybe skating with someone else and having someone to lean on would help her a lot. Who knows if she knows anything about the dance discipline though.
    Me too! Of course it could be that the thread on her was next to this in the forum at the top ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleLotte29 View Post
    They had a progress this season what makes her decision even more unbelievable.
    Not only that... they also already qualified for next Worlds (they got the points in Japan). Both Peter and Justyna were happy about the results and the way they skated in Saitama and very happy about the qualification. Then a month later she turns around and just walks away.

    I guess, we need to move on and focus on the future of Polish Figure Skating without Justyna.

    I didn't read the thread about Agnes, (I know she is planning to sit this season out). Don't really have an opinion on single skaters moving onto ice-dance and I don't think she would ever consider this; or if he would consider this either. I know Yura Kim (Korea) just started skating with Tim Kaleto. This is what he said about this in the interview on Ice-Dance.com :
    “Not many people move from senior men to senior ice dance at 21 years old with no prior experience,” Koleto said, “but I am not intimidated by the challenge. I love ice dance more than I ever thought I could, and this experience is so unique. It is a bit cliché to say that I am ‘living the dream,’ but I feel that I really am.”

    Peter is looking... so ladies spread the word

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