06-12-2014, 08:10 PM
Uh, many people are TRYING to be the change. Launching petitions, FB pages, writing articles, trying to round up skaters in support of anonymous judging, but it seems to fall on deaf ears. So if such an attempt to change the world fails, then what's next? Continue beating on the wall?
Originally Posted by Sam-Skwantch
06-12-2014, 08:32 PM
Landing 3As in my dreams!
I wish I knew, and understand what you mean about fighting fire with fire. But I also feel that the "fire" approach will badly hurt FS as a whole without benefiting the skaters in any way. After all, what good is an OGM or any medal if it's not won fairly?
Originally Posted by lilahozi
06-12-2014, 09:09 PM
No. It's because these are the countries -- without top skaters -- who are used to collude with larger federations to influence results.
Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy
Big country X (USA, Canada, Russia, Japan, etc.) try to get as many of these smaller federations on their side as possible. They get favors or bribes or whatever they get, and that's what they receive out of senior ISU competitions. If anonymous judging went away, all of those benefits would disappear, and these federations would be receiving nothing nor having any relevant skaters.
As I've been saying, these are the people running the sport ... into the ground.
06-13-2014, 03:14 AM
Maybe ISU tech guys told them unofficially that Yuna lost in Sochi for most of judges.
Originally Posted by kwanatic
06-13-2014, 07:17 AM
Yuna's Ice Rink
or maybe speedy gave them an offer they can't refuse for their beloved speed skating..
Originally Posted by mich2
06-15-2014, 03:48 PM
Ice is slippery
Since we are talking about the judging, mind anyone explaining why almost identical jumps got different GOE and call in the same competition? I have just logged on youtube and they suggest me this video: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BR-JWw-rm9g
06-15-2014, 03:58 PM
I think second one was really a slightly, very slightly underrotated, she touched with blade earlier than in 1st one I think
Originally Posted by Meoima
06-16-2014, 01:18 PM
I agree. It's very slight, but I agree with the caller. It is a bit a ridiculous of course that the second one is worth 4.3 points less though.
Originally Posted by HanDomi
Then again, it's also ridiculous that Asada received +GOE for this 3A in her 2013 Worlds SP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBBM_Z39JdA
Most skaters have been gifted or screwed over by the judges at some point or another.
06-19-2014, 12:58 AM
Some posters were talking about deductions for falls in the thread about predictions of 2018 medalists, so I thought I'd chip in here: has anyone suggested a fall being a percentage of the total segment score? Nothing too drastic, perhaps something like 2% so that a skater who scores 120 would receive 2.4 points off, 130 would lose 2.6 points, etc. Still a bigger deduction than for a fall but not extremely so, and takes into account that a fall typically mars the whole program, rather than an isolated element.
06-20-2014, 06:36 AM
missing Mao & Yuna
Love the idea. Anything is better than the current mere 1 point deduction imho.
Originally Posted by AC96
06-20-2014, 07:15 AM
See my post here
Originally Posted by AC96
That whole thread might be of interest.