Mrs. P is neither of these qualities and she is an American. ...
Mrs. P is neither of these qualities and she is an American. Me on the other hand.
Americans are vapid and disrespectful imo.
Don't say that Sam, you're the most awesome Yuliatron I know.
As I'm fuming over your comment on another thread about her. I understand you are not a fan and that's fine but I see no reason not to show her some respect. Hasn't she earned that at least.
Given the amount of people who are trying to get citizenship in this country -- and not just to skate in the Olympics -- I don't think everyone agrees with you.
My parents and brother are naturalized Americans (came from Vietnam after the Fall of Saigon) and they are proud of it, even if they don't agree with everything people do here. And they are not disrespectful. So please stop.
With all due respect, People are seeking citizenship in this country because of opportunity, standard of living, etc, not "national character traits". That being said, one is always on very shaky ground assigning character traits to a whole nation.
Americans are vapid and disrespectful imo.
Speaking of the widely-respected Mrs. P ...
Silly me "missed the memo" that you have joined the ranks of the GS mods, Mrs. P.
Happily noticed just now that your name was added to the list. :yes:
Ashley Wagner was the "Most Improved" among Team USA's Sochi Olympians, according to this article published today. (And the article includes a great photo of her from Sochi. )
Gracie beat Ashley every competition since Nationals, whereas prior to that Ashely won all the head-to-heads, so in my mind Gold would be "Most Improved".
Gracie was much better in the second half of the season than the first. Wagner was slightly worse overall if anything (although her worlds LP was probably her best skater of the season). More improved between the two is Gold by a landslide. How else has she gone from distant U.S #2 to clear cut U.S #1 (even if CSG is in denial about the latter), while Wagner has gone the reverse.
Then Wagner should never have been considered a clear cut US #1 heading into last season over Gracie considering how Ashley had to hang on to win at Nationals in 2013 when Gracie stomped her in the FS. Or how about barely beating Gold by .57 of a point at the WTT in 2013? Wagner was vulnerable heading into last season though some people seemed to think Gold was not in Ashley's league.Clear cut US#1's don't lose the freeskate to both of their teammates at Worlds (and only defeat their teammate by a mere 1.5 points). :sarcasm:
Most improved is a ridiculous discussion anyways. Of course if a skater starts a season horribly, then chances are they will improve as the season goes on. With Ashley starting the season strong, the chance of her being most improved by the end of the season is minimized because she's already pretty good. Obviously Wagner flubbed Nationals, but she had a personal best at Worlds in the FS, which is clearly something Gold failed to come even close to doing.
As the article shows, it's considering Wagner as most improved for how she bounced back after Nationals and almost being left off the team. If you look at Wagner's Nationals skate and her Sochi/Worlds skate, it's much more of an improvement. If you look at Gold's Nationals skate and herWorlds skate, she went down (literally and figuratively) -- although if you compare her Worlds/Sochi skates to her GP skates/US Classic, of COURSE there was improvement.
Then Wagner should never have been considered a clear cut US #1 heading into last season over Gracie considering how Ashley had to hang on to win at Nationals in 2013 when Gracie stomped her in the FS. Or how about barely beating Gold by .57 of a point at the WTT in 2013? Wagner was vulnerable heading into last season though some people seemed to think Gold was not in Ashley's league.
The skater who won U.S Nationals, was the highest placed U.S finisher at the Olympics (by 3 places), and at worlds is the clear cut U.S #1. Who would be close enough to even make her not the clear #1 presently, the skater who finished 4th at Nationals and had to be petitioned onto the Olympic and world teams (amongst huge controversy and disgust), and came only 7th at both Olympics and worlds, never being in even remote contention for a medal? Anyway thanks to CSG for proving me right, he is indeed the only one who denies Gold as clear U.S #1 at this exact moment as I presumed he would, but as in so many other things he is in his own little fantasy world on this one. :sarcasm: