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Thread: Zijun Li vs. Kaetlyn Osmond: The Unsung Rivalry

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    Zijun Li vs. Kaetlyn Osmond: The Unsung Rivalry

    Li beat Osmond at all their head-to-heads in the 2012-2013 season, but Osmond had her revenge in the Sochi Olympics and at Saitama Worlds. I think these two have the potential to really push each other. Theirs is probably not a fight for the gold, but still a fight to reach the final flight at Worlds and to by some miracle scrape by into the GPF. Last year I was really expecting Li to impress us during the 13-14 season but her terrible programs reduced my enthusiasm and injuries took their toll (on Osmond as well, a strange coincidence). Osmond also struggled with injury but is widely touted as having the best transitions among the ladies today.

    EDIT whoops, I got their results mixed up for Sochi and Saitama. So can Zijun Li recover and catch up to Kaetlyn Osmond, or can Osmond keep her lead?

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    I think it is more on Li than on Osmond. Li had a "sophomore slump" last year after a promising 2012-13 season. Can she come back strong, or is her best work behind her already?

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    Kaetlyn was 13th in Sochi (168.98) and 11th at Worlds (170.64) while Zijun was 14th in Sochi (168.30) and 17th at Worlds (150.34), She didn't beat Kaetlyn handily at all, Kaetlyn beat her barely there. Honestly consider them neck to neck, Kaetlyn can make mistakes in her SP and still beat Zijun while Zijun skates an LP much more soundly than Kaetlyn. Personally I think Kaetlyn is much more fun to watch but I like both girls, Kaetlyn's programs are packed full of transitions and she's got huge jumps, if she can land her jumps like she did in her Saitama SP then she can threaten a lot of other girls other than Zijun. I just hope next season neither of them are hampered by injury and can both skate to their fullest because I like what they both bring to the table. I've only watched them last season and this season so I think I still need some time to watch them more haha

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    ^^Agreed.

    Last season both Zijun and Kaetlyn suffered injuries and never had enough time to really get their feet under them for the big events.

    At this point I do find Kaetlyn much more enjoyable to watch. She delivers her programs with speed, energy and enthusiasm which helps to boost her a bit when she makes mistakes.

    Zijun on the other hand pretty much disappeared last season from a performance standpoint. She was sort of sleepwalking through her programs (both of which were rather blah) which really hurt her PCS. There was no life or energy to her performances which was really sad to see b/c she's such a talented girl.


    I think both ladies have the goods to be in the mix moving forward. Kaetlyn still needs someone to smooth her out; she's still a little all over the place when she skates. BUT she has personality and pizazz and can definitely put on a show. Refinement and some consistency will put her back near the top.

    Zijun needs better programs. She's good with light classical music but I think Lori should step out of the box and find her some nice contemporary classical pieces instead of saddling her with warhorse after warhorse each season...and for goodness sake, switch up the choreography. Every single one of her programs follows the exact same layout and exact same pattern across the ice. Variety please!

    In addition, Zijun has to perform; put some energy and feeling behind the movements and bring it to life otherwise her PCS will never go up and she'll fade into the background.


    Both ladies are talented. The more successful of the two will be the one who steps up first.

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    While they are talented, they won't make it to the top if they don't step it up and undergo a major transformation. The Russians and Americans seem slated to dominate.

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    I wouldn't consider them as having a rivalry. The way I see them now, they're two skaters who were out of the picture last season due to injuries. But if both stay healthy, they are talented enough to potentially make a splash on the GP. Neither will threaten for a world medal soon, or maybe ever, but they could be in the second-tier level of skaters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianSkaterGuy View Post
    I wouldn't consider them as having a rivalry. The way I see them now, they're two skaters who were out of the picture last season due to injuries. But if both stay healthy, they are talented enough to potentially make a splash on the GP. Neither will threaten for a world medal soon, or maybe ever, but they could be in the second-tier level of skaters.
    If Kaetlyn gets a 3loop and gets some consistency with the rest of her jumps, I don't think why she SHOULD'T threaten for a medal at some point. Is it because she's not blonde?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shine View Post
    If Kaetlyn gets a 3loop and gets some consistency with the rest of her jumps, I don't think why she SHOULD'T threaten for a medal at some point. Is it because she's not blonde?
    I think you're mistaking him for Sky Fly

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    The funniest part is, CSG is the most pro-Canadian person around and constantly at odds with Skyfly. Oh the irony...

    Ahem, well, I don't have strong opinions on either Li or Osmond, but it's kinda stretching it to call it a rivalry at this point. I know it might sound elitist to say this, but they need to be competing for medals for it to be a rivalry. Not for sixth place/spot in final group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shine View Post
    If Kaetlyn gets a 3loop and gets some consistency with the rest of her jumps, I don't think why she SHOULD'T threaten for a medal at some point. Is it because she's not blonde?
    I think she needs to pay more attention to detail and the positions she achieves. Her programs are hard and she has great energy but she doesn't have very good lines. An example would be her illusion position, which looks very bent. I'd prefer to see her pull out some of the difficult transitions and focus more on her line.

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    Well, as much as an Osmond fan as I am, it's hard to ignore the influx of Russians.

    I think Osmond could potentially threaten for a bronze, or even GP wins, but a World medal is rather bleak given that the podium will quite possibly be monopolized by at least 2 Russians over the next few seasons, and probably the other podium spot going to Gold/Edmunds if not the 3rd Russian entry.

    I like Osmond, but just because I like her I'm not going to say crazy stuff like she will win the next 3 World titles, especially when she hasn't shown any indication that she can. Really, Julia is the only one who has shown indication to dominate -- the rest of the field is too inconsistent. Radionova, once her PCS starts getting up to snuff, will likely be that other Russian who monopolizes the top spots... and maybe Pogorilaya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drivingmissdaisy View Post
    I think she needs to pay more attention to detail and the positions she achieves. Her programs are hard and she has great energy but she doesn't have very good lines. An example would be her illusion position, which looks very bent. I'd prefer to see her pull out some of the difficult transitions and focus more on her line.
    That's exactly what I mean by her needing refinement. She's kinda sloppy. It's something that can definitely be fixed but she does need to work on that.

    Kaetlyn's lack of blond hair dye has nothing to do with her ability to score well. Personally, I prefer Kaetlyn to Gracie; she's a far superior skater in terms of her energy, interpretation and ability to perform...and her transitions make Gracie's look like chump change too. Gracie has benefited from working with Frank and Lori who are known to really smooth a skater out and slow them down. That is exactly what Kaetlyn needs.

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    Agreed. Kaetlyn needs refinement, but she's got more spunk and energy than many other skaters. Like Daleman, she sometimes needs to rein it in just a tad. Osmond certainly has bigger jumps and better projection to the audience than Li does, but hopefully both can bounce back from last season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangtongfan View Post
    I agree although Sotnikova is incredibly sloppy, unartistic and everything she does is incredibly ugly, but unfortunately for Osmond she is not Russian so for her that wont fly, and she does need to fix that aspect of her skating.
    Augh, get over yourself. We get it... Sotnikova won because she's Russian. Nobody even mentioned her in this thread, and you figured you'd use it as a tirade. Although I suppose now that she's the new Chan in your mind, you'll spam 100 non-Sotnikova related threads to make everyone aware of your sentiments towards her.

    Saying everything she does is incredibly ugly is just bitchy. We're referring to her skating after all -- not your posts/general attitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pangtongfan View Post
    I agree although Sotnikova is incredibly sloppy, unartistic and everything she does is incredibly ugly, but unfortunately for Osmond she is not Russian so for her that wont fly, and she does need to fix that aspect of her skating.
    I agree with CSG. This is just uncalled for and a little pathetic.

    At 17 years old of course Adelina needs some refinement but calling everything she does "incredibly ugly" is just plain childish. If you're older than 10 years old, I'm embarrassed for you.

    Besides, I think this is very beautiful.

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