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    Quote Originally Posted by Alba View Post
    That's interesting. Why is that in your opinion, maybe immigration from other countries have an influence?
    I'm not sure. It could be a number of factors. Soccer itself got a huge boost when the Socceroos made it to the round of 16 in 2006. That we qualified for three world cups in a row has probably helped. Alessandro del Piero was huge for soccer in Australia because for once the A-league hadn't bought a star that came down here for a holiday and was conveniently "injured" most of the time. There's more soccer on TV now and more people have pay TV to watch it. I don't really know.

    Add this in with more PR disasters for rugby league - stars out drinking and assaulting people and groping women and then problems on the field, like the fighting rules and then Alex McKinnon having his neck broken in a spear tackle this year - and parents probably think it's better for young Timmy to play soccer than rugby league. (My brother played league when he was a kid, and it was terrifying to watch him - he was such a little guy with limbs like twigs.) And yeah, it's a controversial thing to say, but the growing numbers of Pacific Islander kids flocking to rugby league is probably not helping - even as kids they're invariably bigger and heavier than other kids their age, and so the smaller kids get injured or scared. I know they were trialling weight divisions in Sydney under-age league for this very reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karne View Post
    Add this in with more PR disasters for rugby league - stars out drinking and assaulting people and groping women and then problems on the field, like the fighting rules and then Alex McKinnon having his neck broken in a spear tackle this year - and parents probably think it's better for young Timmy to play soccer than rugby league. (My brother played league when he was a kid, and it was terrifying to watch him - he was such a little guy with limbs like twigs.) And yeah, it's a controversial thing to say, but the growing numbers of Pacific Islander kids flocking to rugby league is probably not helping - even as kids they're invariably bigger and heavier than other kids their age, and so the smaller kids get injured or scared. I know they were trialling weight divisions in Sydney under-age league for this very reason.
    Not like I’m against soccer in Australia – it was nice goal from Cahill yesterday! – but I hope that rugby league will sort it out. I love rugby – once we discuss it on GS, it really is the very opposite to figure skating, start with team spirit and honesty, end with bodily contact and force applied – it is always fascinating to watch and Australia and Pacific Islands are great contributors. I hope they will sort out those weight matters because it’s very important for kids from small island countries to come to Australia to play and progress and in a game like rugby the actual weight and size of the kid are certainly more important than DOB.

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    I don't think words can describe what kind of impression last night's soccer match Spain - Holland has made in the Netherlands. The fact is, soccer is our nr. 1 national passion (speed skating is nr. 2, I guess), BUT, ever since the lost Worlds final in 2010 (against Spain, duh), general consensus has been that the Orange team rather, well... sucks.

    Enter last night, which was generally assumed to be another Spain-trashes-its-opponent match, and madness has overtaken the country. I bet commercialism is sky-rocketing today, suddenly everybody wants to have orange goodies again. ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by karne View Post
    I'm not sure. It could be a number of factors. Soccer itself got a huge boost when the Socceroos made it to the round of 16 in 2006. That we qualified for three world cups in a row has probably helped. Alessandro del Piero was huge for soccer in Australia because for once the A-league hadn't bought a star that came down here for a holiday and was conveniently "injured" most of the time. There's more soccer on TV now and more people have pay TV to watch it. I don't really know.

    Add this in with more PR disasters for rugby league - stars out drinking and assaulting people and groping women and then problems on the field, like the fighting rules and then Alex McKinnon having his neck broken in a spear tackle this year - and parents probably think it's better for young Timmy to play soccer than rugby league. (My brother played league when he was a kid, and it was terrifying to watch him - he was such a little guy with limbs like twigs.) And yeah, it's a controversial thing to say, but the growing numbers of Pacific Islander kids flocking to rugby league is probably not helping - even as kids they're invariably bigger and heavier than other kids their age, and so the smaller kids get injured or scared. I know they were trialling weight divisions in Sydney under-age league for this very reason.
    I'm sorry to hear that. I think rugby is a beautiful game and from what I've seen your national team looks very good.
    Your football team last night played very well I must say, and I'm sorry because the result in the end don't reflect the game. It could've ended in a draw at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anna K. View Post
    Not like I’m against soccer in Australia – it was nice goal from Cahill yesterday! – but I hope that rugby league will sort it out. I love rugby – once we discuss it on GS, it really is the very opposite to figure skating, start with team spirit and honesty, end with bodily contact and force applied – it is always fascinating to watch and Australia and Pacific Islands are great contributors. I hope they will sort out those weight matters because it’s very important for kids from small island countries to come to Australia to play and progress and in a game like rugby the actual weight and size of the kid are certainly more important than DOB.
    I agree. Unfortunately some don't. There was a big hue and cry when weight divisions were first suggested: I remember watching a story on a news program at the time about a mother complaining because teams were actually forfeiting games so they didn't have to play against her son. These kids were under-10s; her son could have easily passed for sixteen in size. I certainly didn't blame the coaches of the other teams.

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    I'm sorry to hear that. I think rugby is a beautiful game and from what I've seen your national team looks very good.
    Your football team last night played very well I must say, and I'm sorry because the result in the end don't reflect the game. It could've ended in a draw at least.
    Hmph. Well what we saw from the union team tonight wasn't very good. But I can proudly (and I think safely) say there is not a team in the world to match our rugby league team - the Kiwis on a good day, but no-one else. Our State of Origin can be more fiercely contested than some test matches!

    Sadly the writing was on the wall for the Socceroos at this World Cup as soon as the group was drawn - the Group of Death it's called here. We're no chance against Spain and the Netherlands. Sigh. Oh well. On we go - and we better find someone else to start scoring goals because I doubt Cahill will go round again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karne View Post
    Sadly the writing was on the wall for the Socceroos at this World Cup as soon as the group was drawn - the Group of Death it's called here. We're no chance against Spain and the Netherlands. Sigh. Oh well. On we go - and we better find someone else to start scoring goals because I doubt Cahill will go round again.
    Indeed you are in the most difficult group of this WC.

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    Well, teams of South Korea and Russia that meet tonight are also in a difficult group in this WC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anna K. View Post
    Well, teams of South Korea and Russia that meet tonight are also in a difficult group in this WC
    Not one of the most difficult groups no. On paper Belgium is the strongest in Russia's group, but they are young team so we'll see how it goes. They're the best though.
    Australia is with Holland, Spain and Chile, and despite their first match disaster Spain is still the reigning World champion and they have plenty of brilliant players. Chile is a strong team and have some very good players, idem Holland.

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    Australia has the Group of Death.

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    Will Socceroos be able to overshadow the Origin for once today???

    Great photo from the Socceroos fan: https://twitter.com/Zdrila/status/47...886464/photo/1

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    Quote Originally Posted by BusyMom View Post
    Will Socceroos be able to overshadow the Origin for once today???

    Great photo from the Socceroos fan: https://twitter.com/Zdrila/status/47...886464/photo/1
    UP THE MIGHTY BLUES

    GO THE MIGHTY BLUES

    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    The Socceroos will have to pummel the Dutch 5-0 or more to overshadow this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    *rather giddy*

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    Quote Originally Posted by karne View Post
    The Socceroos will have to pummel the Dutch 5-0 or more to overshadow this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    *rather giddy*
    That's what I thought.

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    Sorry, no pummeling the Dutch.
    Holland is very likely (!) through to the next round, hurah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winnie_20 View Post
    Sorry, no pummeling the Dutch.
    Holland is very likely (!) through to the next round, hurah!
    I think they have just secured their slot to the next round already. Anyways, I hope Spain will do well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meoima View Post
    I think they have just secured their slot to the next round already. Anyways, I hope Spain will do well.
    Not secured, no. They can still become third, but it's not likely. For that to happen, Spain would have to win tonight, Chili win in the match against Holland, Spain win against Australia, that would put all three teams at six points, and then I think they look at the difference in goal points, or however it's called in English (dutch: doelsaldo). Which will likely mean Holland is still through, because they have five points (four from the 1-5 and one from the 2-3).
    Something like that, anyway. I'm not an expert, lol. Very simply put, though, if Spain does not win tonight, we're through.

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