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    Quote Originally Posted by sk8in View Post
    There is video on YouTube of Gracie Gold doing a 3Lz-3Tl-3Lo. Its from almost 3 years ago. I guess she never put it into one of her programs.
    I don't believe three triple jumps are allowed in combination. That would be why. Radinova practices it also as I'm sure many others can and do.

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    Why wouldn't 3-3-3s be allowed? It does use up your triples though and isn't worth the risk because the scoring system doesn't reward crazy hard combos. There are also videos of Shizuka Arakawa and Carolina Kostner doing them in practice too. Shizuka landed a 3Z-3T-2L combo at 2004 worlds but it wasn't under IJS if I remember correctly.

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    ^I think you're right. They're allowed, but there's absolutely no point in doing them. Basically same as three-jump quad combos for the men these days... a dying breed... (well, stillborn breed, since 3-3-3 for women never got landed in competition at all, iirc)

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    It would only be worth it ifit was done well to get goes so you could do an extra double axel or maybe a double lutz later on to garner a few more points but the gamble is pretty much a deterrent.

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    I've seen people post before that the third jump had to be double but have failed in my search to find anything to prove it within ISU guidelines

    It would be very risky!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by caelum View Post
    If you watch the video, the 3Lo is badly under-rotated (though still lovely), it quite possibly would be downgraded to a 2Lo now-a-days. These things just weren't called in the 2007 era.
    Really??? too bad it didn't happen like you imagined, it was ratified both then and loong after, here is another amazing 3f-3lo from 2009 Worlds sp:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg3zNS727dI


    This is a treat for the eyes and soul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam-Skwantch View Post
    I've seen people post before that the third jump had to be double
    If indeed people posted that, they were probably thinking about strategy. There's nothing in the rules to require it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gkelly View Post
    If indeed people posted that, they were probably thinking about strategy. There's nothing in the rules to require it.
    Yes. I was misreading certain posts. It clearly states in the rules three jump combos are not limited in any way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skater Boy View Post
    It would only be worth it ifit was done well to get goes so you could do an extra double axel or maybe a double lutz later on to garner a few more points but the gamble is pretty much a deterrent.
    Agreed. It's smarter to use the 3-jump combo for a half-loop 3S combo. Doing a 3-3-3 prevents you from doing that.

    I think it's incredibly stupid that 1/2 loops don't get any credit starting next year, but the 3F-1/2-3S still counts as a 3-jump combo (for which you only get credit for 2 jumps!)

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    Agreed, but at least it's better than only getting 80% credit for those 2 jumps.

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    I think the biggest problem with a three triple jump combo would be Zayak considerations. If you do, say, 3Lz+3T+3T, you have already repeated the 3T and you can't do any other combo that ends in 3T. If you then do a solo 3Lz, now all your allowed repeats are used up and you have to scramble to find something useful to do with the rest of the program.

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