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    News Politics and economics of the 2022 Olympic Winter Games

    Read here: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/29/sp...away.html?_r=0

    Sochi has certainly played a role even if that cost figure continues to be misleading, incorporating huge infrastructural investments not directly related to the staging of the Games.

    "People think it’s too expensive to host a Winter Olympics now and that it may be too big,” said Gerhard Heiberg, the Norwegian International Olympic Committee member who was the head of the Lillehammer Organizing Committee for the widely acclaimed 1994 Winter Games and is a driving force behind Oslo’s faltering bid.
    Oh great! Thank you Putin!

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    The Olympics would be well served to tone down a bit. In fact a lot. This is a very important issue!

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    I think the games should be held again by 2022 in Pyonchang or Sochi then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meoima View Post
    Oh great! Thank you Putin!
    Oh please. I know there's a lot of "Evil Russia" sentiment on this board but that's just ridiculous. The costs of the Olympics (both Winter and Summer) have been spiralling out of control for years. Look at the disaster Rio is turning into.

    If Russia was able to incorporate infrastructure that will be of benefit to the area for years to come then more power to them - because that's more than what Athens or Beijing could say.

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    Well, I think Putin has nothing to with this, it is just quite common to blame everything on him nowadays

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    Yep, agree with you Karne.

    There's even talk now that they may have to have the Olympics in London again in 2016 because Rio is only about 10% ready right now. Athens was considered a huge failure and disaster when they had only finished just over 40% or the required infrastructure and other preparations by this same point before their games. Eventually they did get most everything ready, but there was a lot of worry about it. And that was at 40%!

    The problem with London is obviously that the athletes' village has been turned intp residential buildings, and it will be tricky to build new ones/get the old ones back for the duration.

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    no one wants to host the olympics (aside from 2-3 countries).. whether it is summer or winter.. it is too expensive.. rio seems a disaster.. they're having a hard time getting it together.. heck even the world cup..

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooper View Post
    no one wants to host the olympics (aside from 2-3 countries).. whether it is summer or winter.. it is too expensive.. rio seems a disaster.. they're having a hard time getting it together.. heck even the world cup..
    Agee. I have no idea why they gave Brazil two of the biggest sport events at the same time. FIFA's rotation on the host country played the big part I guess. Still, Brazil economics and internal affairs raise the red flags all along.

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    The olympic movement wants to get bigger but it almost feels like its on the virge of a great decline or downsize. This is such sad news but a sad and bitter truth is never always easy to swallow.

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    I respect the posters on all sides of this, but here is how I feel in my heart:

    The Olympics has lost its way. It has been made into a money gobbler that destroys neighbourhoods (through appropriation, taxes), creates debt (borne by the people who have to pay taxes, not the ones who lined their pockets) and brings out the worse in back-room antics. It is not just Russia (although Russia has to be the worse - 50 Billion borders on insane and if it is not a sign of sickness in society that spending that kind of money can be condoned, well . . . I think it is shameful imho . . . just my opinion), but basically anywhere that the games go and what has to be done to make them happen. Mostly, the IOC made it happen that way on purpose because it felt more money always makes everything better (if not for others, than for themselves and their own power), and it has become a kingdom unto itself, answerable to no one. The event should be scaled back to the essence of why it was started (goodwill between nations, honesty and integrity in competition, good sportsmanship, as well as the high level of athleticism that does still remain) or it deserves to implode. I am so relieved that the Toronto politicians (self-interest and ego) who wanted to get the Olympics here in Toronto have failed repeatedly to do so. Honestly, I would not miss them if they were to disappear off of the face of the earth. Seriously, the majority of people who have to really pay for them probably would be better off. The games are just not worth the cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GF2445 View Post
    The olympic movement wants to get bigger but it almost feels like its on the virge of a great decline or downsize. This is such sad news but a sad and bitter truth is never always easy to swallow.
    It is true. But I don't feel it is a sad thing. I am sure most people don't know even half of the winter games. Plus, do we really need a dozen speed skatings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BusyMom View Post
    Agee. I have no idea why they gave Brazil two of the biggest sport events at the same time. FIFA's rotation on the host country played the big part I guess. Still, Brazil economics and internal affairs raise the red flags all along.
    I thought the concept in awarding Brazil both events was that the two could "piggy back" on each other.

    I recently read that Montreal had finally shed all its Olympic debt.

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    Maybe it is time for another movement or break the games up into smaller but more frequent games.
    It's either that or the Olympics needs to change it's philosophy in how to organise an Olympic games

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    The problem to me is most countries see the Summer games as the prize and try to hold out for that. And Europe in general is broke and its hard to get support

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    Quote Originally Posted by GF2445 View Post
    The olympic movement wants to get bigger but it almost feels like its on the virge of a great decline or downsize. This is such sad news but a sad and bitter truth is never always easy to swallow.
    Quote Originally Posted by phaeljones View Post
    I respect the posters on all sides of this, but here is how I feel in my heart:

    The Olympics has lost its way. It has been made into a money gobbler that destroys neighbourhoods (through appropriation, taxes), creates debt (borne by the people who have to pay taxes, not the ones who lined their pockets) and brings out the worse in back-room antics. It is not just Russia (although Russia has to be the worse - 50 Billion borders on insane and if it is not a sign of sickness in society that spending that kind of money can be condoned, well . . . I think it is shameful imho . . . just my opinion), but basically anywhere that the games go and what has to be done to make them happen. Mostly, the IOC made it happen that way on purpose because it felt more money always makes everything better (if not for others, than for themselves and their own power), and it has become a kingdom unto itself, answerable to no one. The event should be scaled back to the essence of why it was started (goodwill between nations, honesty and integrity in competition, good sportsmanship, as well as the high level of athleticism that does still remain) or it deserves to implode. I am so relieved that the Toronto politicians (self-interest and ego) who wanted to get the Olympics here in Toronto have failed repeatedly to do so. Honestly, I would not miss them if they were to disappear off of the face of the earth. Seriously, the majority of people who have to really pay for them probably would be better off. The games are just not worth the cost.

    I would not shed one tear if the Olympics as they are now stopped completely and immediately. Nothing but a show and as phaeljones pointed out, it is the politicians who get theirs pockets lined and the builders and businesses who get all the contracts to build the facilities who get rich, leaving mounds of debt for the people to shoulder for often decades to come (Montreal was in 1976!!! almost 40 years ago). Yes, some of the venues still get used, but I don't think that nearly offsets the debt (keeping with Montreal, the equestrian three-day eventing was held at Bromont, which still hosts major international horse trials even now; same with Conyers, GA from Atlanta 1996). And the spirit of AMATEUR athletic competition is long gone. And frankly much of the fair play, because you clearly see a tendency to host country bias in judged events, for example.

    Go away, Olympics, go away! A World Championship in any sport is in my mind just as important and worthy -- maybe even more so because not influenced by all the hype and spectacle -- as any Olympic gold.

    BTW the piece I read was a different article on the same issue, and it was primarily a photo piece. The pictures were spooky and compelling, esp. the Sarajevo bobsled/sleigh track and the abandoned hotel, though the Calgary coliseum was eerie, too. I'll see if I can find it and add the link.

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