There's no way he's matching Plushenko's achievements though - the field is too competitive, and the demands on skaters under CoP are just too demanding at this point to allow a skater to skate as consistently as Yagudin/Plushenko/etc. I can however picture Kovtun eventually doing a program with greater difficulty than anything Plushenko ever did (3 quads and 2 axels; and he'll probably learn to do the half-loop sequence; and also add in a 3F).
I can see Kovtun on the podium (I wouldn't bet on it but it's a decent possibility)... but not at the top of the podium. Even without Koreavengeance.
I feel like getting Chan back in 2018 would still be a much better bet than pushing Reynolds. Reynolds already has UR issues (if anything, he overperformed in the team event... and Chan underperformed. Plush just came out and did his customary skates... which arguably is overperforming considering what he's been through). The judges are really not enamoured with him outside of the quads, and he isn't even consistent at those. They're the same age. I fear that injury will eat into Kevin like they did the quad king of the past era, Timothy Goebel. I'll be happy for Kevin if he even makes it to the next Olympics.
Lol, Firus. I'd forgotten about him. His performance at the Olympics left a big scar in my brain and I've since tried my best to erase the memory. Apologies to any Firus fans out there, but that wasn't a skate I wanted to see at the Olympics...
Yeah if Chan comes back for 2018 I am almost certain he would be ahead of Reynolds who would be just as old, and likely past his prime as well. I would be surprised if Reynold's 2013 doesnt forever remain his career peak as well. However there is no saying he is even likely to want to skate in 2018, it is probably 40-60 at absolute best, which is why I was covering all the possabilities of who might be their #1, #2, or used in the Team Event then.
Yeah, I think Kovtun is more likely to be on the podium than the top of it... but I think Sochi men's shows us anything could happen, and all you need is one skater to have the programs of their lives. Hah, even with Koreavengeance.
Sorry, as you guys can probably tell, I'm only posting to get the word Koreavengeance out there.
I don't see how Sochi men's shows how "anything" can happen. Hanyu was already prepped as Chan's biggest rival, and it's not surprising that he would win when Chan faltered. The only "surprise" might be just how badly both of them faltered (but considering how the men have been skating the whole quad...), but the podium wasn't a surprise. Ten nearly unseated Chan in 2013, and not to mention he only got bronze because Javi Zayaked.
Granted, Hanyu was... I don't know where... in 2010, and Ten was far from the podium. Our predictions are indeed premature when it comes to singles. I wouldn't be surprised if 2018 podium were Hanyu + two current unknowns (with Hanyu not necessarily at the top).
That performance by Firus... Him and Paul Bonifacio Parkinson were my two nightmares of Sochi.
??? US has better women. Canada has better men and pairs. Ice dance is about equal at best (D/W have been beating V/M, but Weaver/Poje > any US team).US has more depth than Canada in most disciplines but came in third after Canada in Team event.
I'm hardly a very nationalistic Canadian (perfectly happy that Russia won the team event), but I don't understand your statement.
Meh, I only wish for P.Chan and Hanyu both will be back in the next Olympic and be clean in their FS because it was painful for them at Sochi.
I hope Koreavengence will not happen, for the sake of figure skating.
Where were all these good men skaters over the past quad? I agree Canada isn't fantastic outside of Chan (as you can tell by my thoughts on Firus), but US doesn't have enough men to outweigh Chan.
With Weaver/Poje's silver, I don't think Canada's behind the US in dance. Even if Canada is behind, the gap there is smaller than the gap in men and pairs.
Well , if things will develop in the future as it is going right now propably Hanyu will be in next quad in current position of Chan ahead of Olympics, and I will be not surprised at all if there will rise his own Hanyu ho will be hunting him
We can predict anything, but anything can happen. Three years ago everyone would say that there is no one to beat Chan in Olympics and then Hanyu came up I will no predict anything 4 years forward