Page 7 of 9 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 LastLast
Results 91 to 105 of 133

Thread: Team Russia for 2014/2015 Season

  1. #91
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Posts
    484
    Interview with Sofia Biryukova about her transition to pairs.

    http://rsport.ru/interview/20140610/751160414.html

  2. #92
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    1,778
    Quote Originally Posted by AliceInWonderland View Post
    Do you guys think the Russian men could get 3 spots for Worlds 2016?
    It's possible. I wouldn't say it's anything close to certain though. The men's field is incredibly inconsistent. It depends on how the Russians skate and how the rest of the field skate. For instance, Kovtun's 4th place LP was quite a bit weaker than Menshov or Voronov's Europeans LPs. However, we can't say if Voronov or Menshov can bring those LPs to Worlds next year. We also don't know if the rest of the field (Aaron, Reynolds, Han Yan) will bomb badly enough to leave the door open again. We don't know how the quad experiment will go for Jason and Pitkeev, if they attempt it.

    Further predictions incoming when they start skating in the GP, but in the end it all boils down to the day.

  3. #93
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    2,815
    Remember also there were only two US men this year, next year there will be three, and the three most likely to be their team are all armed with high TES or high PCS or both.

    Still pulling for Menshov/Gachinski world team.

  4. #94
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Falling-again!-at an ice rink near you!
    Posts
    1,921
    Thank you Alex for taking the time to put this all together for us non-Russian speaking members. Much appreciated!

  5. #95
    Yulia and Ruslena team forever! Alba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Location
    Milan
    Posts
    3,392
    What do you people think about Monko&Khaliavin?

    I myself don't know what to think. I find them fresh and very good on the interpretative level.
    I like him but I don't like the posture of her upper body and her knees. I do prefer S&B more.
    Furthermore, I think she is a bit tall for him or it looks like?

  6. #96
    Medalist
    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Location
    Ukraine
    Posts
    80
    Quote Originally Posted by Alba View Post
    What do you people think about Monko&Khaliavin?
    I think that the theme of SD suits them. They really can look good in paso doble. The main thing is whether their coach will have enough time for them? And of course the dance. After the BS's "Bird program" i'm afraid to imagine what else Zhulin can create. They also have a great chance to fight their place in the Russian team.

  7. #97
    Yulia and Ruslena team forever! Alba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Location
    Milan
    Posts
    3,392
    Quote Originally Posted by Anastasi14 View Post
    I think that the theme of SD suits them. They really can look good in paso doble. The main thing is whether their coach will have enough time for them? And of course the dance. After the BS's "Bird program" i'm afraid to imagine what else Zhulin can create. They also have a great chance to fight their place in the Russian ream.
    But what do you think about them in general, as Ice Dancers? I'm asking because 2013-2014 was the first season I saw them so I don't know them very well.

    p.s. Aren't they already put in the main team for the new season?

  8. #98
    Medalist
    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Location
    Ukraine
    Posts
    80
    Quote Originally Posted by Alba View Post
    But what do you think about them in general, as Ice Dancers? I'm asking because 2013-2014 was the first season I saw them so I don't know them very well.

    p.s. Aren't they already put in the main team for the new season?
    I can't judge because i don't have enough professional knowledge in ice dances. But as a viewer I think they have good tech, and they are equal partners. Last season at the control skate, as for me, they were the brightest and the most promising (except IK). Unfortunately, i think they have a minus start and most of mistakes from there.

    Yes they are in the main team (main team is mostly about funding) but i meant that they should fight their place in Russian team for Euros and Worlds.

  9. #99
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    640
    Quote Originally Posted by Anastasi14 View Post
    Maybe the Fed pushes them to stay juniors. Or their coach don't want to deal with two senior pairs; Because it's not easy simultaneously to work with a completely new pair, that need a lot of attention, and to train a pair who need to make a good senior impression.
    Quote Originally Posted by tulosai View Post
    Yeah, I actually think the Fed probably had some say in this. We need to remember it is not the same in Russia as it is in other federations. Since the fed is providing all the funding, the fed gets a much larger say. in the USA if a team wants to move to Seniors or stay in Juniors, it's their choice and their triumph if it works out and their funeral if it doesn't. In Russia, I think it is much more of a discussion between a cross-section of people- the team, the coach, the fed.
    Y&M announced already after FD at Junior World Champs that they plan to stay in juniors one more year. So this decision was made together with coaches much sooner than I&K&S&Z's affair started.
    I take it like like good decision. Althought Junior World title doesn't mean senior success, it can help. All other top Russian couples are ex Junior Champs.

    Hawayek & Baker will have better placement anyway, because they win the most important competion of the Junior season althought Yanovskaya & Mozgov won Junior Grand Prix Final and were straight leaders for whole season. Hawayek & Baker have big advantage in US field which is not so deep like in Russia right now. Even 6th Russian Nationals couple Stepanova & Bukin have very good technique and difficult programs, so Yanovskaya & Mozgov would probably finish even behind them at Nationals (yes, Riazanova & Tchakenko retired and two couples split, but new couples consist four great technicians and made great results last season - so judges still remember each of them like promising dancer, so there is 99% chance that at least one or maybe both couples will be really great again). Plus Bobrova & Soloviev, Monko & Khaliavin, Stepanova & Bukin (don't forget Tarasova's support who simply loves Bukin). So still Yanovskaya & Mozgov would be around 5th place, which means no European or World Champs.

    While Hawayek & Baker can easily challenge all top US teams. Chock & Bates suffer from Bates weak technique and one kind of style - romantic style. Shibutanis don't have good enought programs and their technique is not strong also, plus they are not fast. Hubbell & Donohue have the best edges from US couples, but judges doesn't look to love them plus Madison's injury plus the couple is not really fast as well. So Hawayek & Baker have real chance to be in top 3 and come to World Champs.

  10. #100
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    640
    Quote Originally Posted by Alba View Post
    What do you people think about Monko&Khaliavin?

    I myself don't know what to think. I find them fresh and very good on the interpretative level.
    I like him but I don't like the posture of her upper body and her knees. I do prefer S&B more.
    Furthermore, I think she is a bit tall for him or it looks like?
    M&K are on the way to be great dancers indeed, I see big potencial in these two. (And I keep another hope for coming back to dancing watching this couple, not only performing elements).
    They suffer from big nervousness which leads to mistakes, but surprisingly when it counts and the competition is tough (like last two Russian Nationals and World Team Trophy 2013) – the couple puts everything together and skates the best possible way – and it is something special then.

    The couple has great technique, deep edges, long lines, finished movements. You mentioned Ksenia’s upper body position – you are right. While in 2012/13 season her upper body was OK, this season she once again bend her back forward. It needs to be corrected.

    This Olympic season Ksenia and Kirill had very unusual program for themselves – funny and sad clown. Not easy program even demanding also face mimics and actor‘s expression, they managed it very well. The couple is the most comfortable in romantic and dramatic stories, for example their Spanish FD in 2012/13 season, Frida FD in 2010/11 season. They are also the couple with good sense for ballroom dances – their Blues FD in 2009/10 and waltz part in SD in 2012/13 season were great.

    What is once again big problem – costuming. Ksenia has similar body building like Navka or Krylova with those loooooong legs, but her costumes doesn’t show her perfection.

    Height difference was never a problem with old judging system because there were not too acrobatic elements. Now judging system prefers more small ladies (mainly because of acrobatic lifts) so everybody discuss height difference. But it doesn’t have much sense. Even couples with small height difference or small weights differences – V&M, Faiella & Scali were able to execute great lifts and top dances, so what? Ksenia is definitely taller then Meryl but Kirill was always great lifter, so even with long Ksenia’s legs the couple is able to perform all variety of difficult lifts even those with rotation around a neck which is highly uncomfortable for tall girls.
    Personally I take this couple like beautiful. Ksenia is another dark haired, dark eyed beauty in non classical way.

    What is their big advantage is the fact that they look like couple, they react greatly at each other while skating. They are both dynamic and passionate dancers (which was very obvious in their last season Spanish FD). I suppose that this couple will have one of the best Spanish SD next season.

  11. #101
    Medalist
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    94
    Quote Originally Posted by sisinka View Post
    While Hawayek & Baker can easily challenge all top US teams. Chock & Bates suffer from Bates weak technique and one kind of style - romantic style. Shibutanis don't have good enought programs and their technique is not strong also, plus they are not fast. Hubbell & Donohue have the best edges from US couples, but judges doesn't look to love them plus Madison's injury plus the couple is not really fast as well. So Hawayek & Baker have real chance to be in top 3 and come to World Champs.
    I agree that the US judges have tended to protect C/B and the Shibutanis against H/D. But I'd say that international judges scores reflect that H/D is very well liked. The fact remains that Madison's recovery and its effects on training will play a huge part in how much they succeed this year.

  12. #102
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    338
    I'm really hoping Hawayek/Baker move up and hopefully go to Worlds this season - I saw them for the first time this season when I was watching the JGPF FD, and was extremely impressed, especially considering the fact that they were juniors. I thought the Amelie FD was just lovely, beautifully understated, interesting, different, and extremely enjoyable to watch. I think they're very talented and I hope they go far together!

    As for the Russians, I'll be curious to see if the European/World team ends up being B/S, M/K, and S/B, or if one (or both) of I/Z and S/K can break into the top 3 at Nationals. RN will certainly be interesting and hopefully entertaining, if nothing else

  13. #103
    Custom Title FSGMT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Italy
    Posts
    2,873
    Quote Originally Posted by sisinka View Post
    While Hawayek & Baker can easily challenge all top US teams. Chock & Bates suffer from Bates weak technique and one kind of style - romantic style. Shibutanis don't have good enought programs and their technique is not strong also, plus they are not fast. Hubbell & Donohue have the best edges from US couples, but judges doesn't look to love them plus Madison's injury plus the couple is not really fast as well. So Hawayek & Baker have real chance to be in top 3 and come to World Champs.
    I'm not really sure about this: we're still talking about couples coached by Zoueva and Shpilband and, even if I really like H/B and LOVED their Amelie FD , I don't really think they can challenge C/B or the Shibs or H/D... 4th place is absolutely within their reach, though!
    On the Russian side, this could definitely be the right year for S/B and M/K to establish themselves as real Senior couples!

  14. #104
    Medalist
    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Location
    Ukraine
    Posts
    80
    I think HB have good chances in siniors. I think the Shibs stuck. I don't see an improvement since 2011. I think that it's Marina's fault, ofcourse she was busy with VM and DW, but she haven't found a style for the Shibs and their tech has suffered after Igor left. And this year i'm not sure that they will be her number one pair.

  15. #105
    Custom Title
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    198
    Quote Originally Posted by Anastasi14 View Post
    I think HB have good chances in siniors. I think the Shibs stuck. I don't see an improvement since 2011. I think that it's Marina's fault, ofcourse she was busy with VM and DW, but she haven't found a style for the Shibs and their tech has suffered after Igor left. And this year i'm not shure that they will be her number one pair.
    I agree with you. They did not build on the bronze medal at Worlds, and have been passed by C/B since then. If Madison hadn't had her injury, maybe they wouldn't have even made the Olympic team - both H/D & the Shibs were getting comparable scores at the start of the season. Marina has made it quite clear that her focus is her new teams. Part of me feels a bit sorry for the Shibs for being overlooked by their coach again, but equally, it's been apparent for years that she doesn't know who to present them & that they aren't her main focus - at some point you have to question why on earth the Shibs haven't made a coaching change yet.

Page 7 of 9 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •